[news.groups] Sidewalks

richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (10/24/89)

(Taken from sci.environment)

In article <3575@midway.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>
>barnes@Xylogics.COM (Jim Barnes) wrote:
>  
>>  Other more mundane arguments are things like who is responsible for
>>  making the sidewalks passable after a snow storm (the town [requires 
>>  specialized sidewalk plows, more town personnel, higher taxes] or the
>>  property owner ["I didn't put the sidewalk there, I don't have to shovel
>>  it if I don't want to."]), or who is liable if someone slips and falls
>>  on the sidewalk (the town or the property owner).
>
>This was one thing that surprised me about Pittsburgh (which does have
>sidewalks).  People were very willing to shovel them clear, and would often
>do their neighbours' bit as well if the neighbour hadn't got round to it.
>One kind of instinctive socialism that is entirely lacking here (though the
>fact that Pittsburgh is FAR colder and snowier than Scotland probably has
>something to do with it - nobody quite expects snow to happen).
>
>The Edinburgh by-laws probably get it as wrong as possible - you aren't
>liable if someone slips on an uncleared pavement (what we have instead of
>sidewalks :-) in front of your house, but if you've started clearing it
>and it's iced up afterwards, you may be.  This is what the law says; I
>don't know of anyone actually being sued.
>
>I once got stopped by the police in Western Pennsylvania after walking into
>a drive-in food place one afternoon (suspicious behaviour, that).  I guess
>I'd have been shot on sight if I'd done it barefoot, as I sometimes go here
>in the summer.  It's catching, though; I got stopped walking late at night
>in Drymen (a posh commuter village north of Glasgow) a couple of years ago.

I for one am proud to be on a net where serious scientific discussion
of sidewalks is encouraged, ans applaud the thinkers of our age that
put this group in sci, and not rec or talk.

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