[news.groups] *.groupware **Call for Votes**

stodol@diku.dk (David Stodolsky) (10/28/89)

This is the call for votes for the "sci.groupware" newsgroup. The proposal 
includes the creation of a followups group "sci.groupware.f".

The sci.groupware newsgroup would cover all types 
of hardware and software for facilitating group 
interaction. This includes what is termed orgware. 

First question to the Net after creation of sci.groupware:
How can the quality of messages that one sees be improved? 

Sci.groupware(.f) would fill the need for scientific discussion 
of questions that come up in comp.mail.misc and 
other comp.mail.* groups (and recently in news.groups). 

For a summary of discussion about the proposed newsgroup, see the accompanying 
post, "Sci.groupware discussion summary", in news.groups. 


I had to post this twice since postnews wouldn't let me post to 16 newsgroups
at once, please reply to this only once. This call for votes and the summary 
will be posted bimonthly (more or less) during the voting period.

Since doubt remains about the preferred name for the group, a single 
transferable vote procedure is being used. This means you rank each choice  
that you approve of, with your most preferred choice first.

Choose:
      "s", if you approve of the group with the name "sci.groupware".
      "c", if you approve of the group with the name "comp.groupware".
      "n", if you disapprove of the group.

For example, if you prefer "sci.groupware" to "comp.groupware", but want the 
group created in any case then your vote would be "sc". 

Place your choice(s) in the subject line of your email message. Replying to 
this article (the R command in rn) should get it the vote counters.  Comments 
should be sent as separate messages.

All unambiguous votes will be counted, even if you do not put
your vote into the "Subject:" line. But please, if you can, follow the
suggestion for putting the vote into the "Subject:" line.

Group or posted votes (followups) will not be counted.

Votes will be collected until November 30th.  

Votes will be acknowledged in a "group acknowledgement": each reposting of the 
call for votes will be accompanied by a list of names of people who voted. It 
will not contain any information on which way they voted.

Followups to this article have been directed to news.groups.
Replies have been directed to Brandon S. Allbery, David S. Stodolsky, and T. 
William Wells for vote processing.

Thank you for your vote.

This Call for Votes is in violation of the letter of the guidelines. The same 
effect could be achieved, however, by following the guidelines and having a 
separate call for each potential name. Some delay between the discussion and 
the call for votes has resulted due to the new procedures being used and 
technical difficulties.

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bee@cs.purdue.EDU (Zaphod Beeblebrox) (10/31/89)

Said stodol@diku.dk, allbery@uunet.UU.NET, gw-vote@twwells.com: 
(in article <4930@freja.diku.dk>)
|
|This is the call for votes for the "sci.groupware" newsgroup. The proposal 
|includes the creation of a followups group "sci.groupware.f".
|

Ack.  What is this, see-how-many-bogus-groups-we-can-create-in-sci
month ?

I should hope this group gets created in comp, if there is enough
interest in it.

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chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) (10/31/89)

Okay.

We have Yet Another Bogus Call For Votes (YABCFV).

It lacked the required discussion period.

And it was cross-posted to [inhale]:
       news.announce.newgroups,
       news.groups,
       comp.cog-eng,
       comp.mail.misc,
       comp.mail.elm,
       comp.mail.mh,
       comp.mail.multi-media, and
       comp.mail.sendmail.

Sigh.

This joker needs a copy of the guidelines.  Volunteers?

(Comp.mail.sendmail?!  If that's groupware, /bin/mail must be hypertext.)
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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (11/01/89)

>We have Yet Another Bogus Call For Votes (YABCFV).

>It lacked the required discussion period.

>This joker needs a copy of the guidelines.  Volunteers?

As has been pointed out many times in the last week, they are just
guidelines. If he wants to ignore them, he can. You can't require a
discussion period with guidelines -- just recommend them.


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Aftershock. Bummer.

peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (11/01/89)

In article <4930@freja.diku.dk> stodol@diku.dk, allbery@uunet.UU.NET, gw-vote@twwells.com writes:
> This is the call for votes for the "sci.groupware" newsgroup. The proposal 
> includes the creation of a followups group "sci.groupware.f".

I really wish the sci.aquaria thing hadn't shown up because this group has
lost its discussion period to a bunch of politics.

As it stands this group sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't seem to fit
the "sci" hierarchy, the name "groupware" is confusing, and the followups
group should probably be named ".d" to conform to the pattern of other such
groups.

(long frustrated sigh)

Uh, how about "news.futures" or something?
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