cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) (11/22/89)
In article <2931@viper.Lynx.MN.Org> dave@viper.Lynx.MN.Org (David Messer) writes: ............................... >Strange. It seems that you are saying that a system-administrator should >care whether a non-paying user stays or goes... What a strange idea! >On MY system, I make the rules for MY convienience -- if the users don't like >it, they are free to find someone else to give them access. As it is, >they get a lot more than they pay for. The system OWNER has the right to do this. A system administrator has an important function to perform, namely, to make the system work well for the USERS. As administrator, s/he has no business making rules for his convenience if they degrade the system in the eyes of the owner and/or users. -- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907 Phone: (317)494-6054 hrubin@l.cc.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet, UUCP)
dave@viper.Lynx.MN.Org (David Messer) (11/23/89)
In article <1730@l.cc.purdue.edu> cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes: > >The system OWNER has the right to do this. A system administrator has an >important function to perform, namely, to make the system work well for the >USERS. As administrator, s/he has no business making rules for his convenience >if they degrade the system in the eyes of the owner and/or users. The system administrator represents the owner. His responsibility is to make the system run as the owner requests -- this may or may not involve making it work well for the users (especially non-paying users.) -- Remember Tiananmen Square. | David Messer dave@Lynx.MN.Org -or- | Lynx Data Systems ...!bungia!viper!dave
allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (11/24/89)
As quoted from <1730@l.cc.purdue.edu> by cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin): +--------------- | The system OWNER has the right to do this. A system administrator has an | important function to perform, namely, to make the system work well for the | USERS. As administrator, s/he has no business making rules for his convenience | if they degrade the system in the eyes of the owner and/or users. | -- +--------------- (1) Often, the system administrator *is* the owner. (2) When s/he is *not* the owner, s/he is selected *by* the owner in order to manage the system for the owner. In that case, the sysadmin is bound by what the users want only insofar as the owner wishes it to be that way; and in any disagreement between the owner's wishes and the users' wishes as moderated by the sysadmin, the owner's wishes are final. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery allbery@NCoast.ORG, BALLBERY (MCI Mail), ALLBERY (Delphi) uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu bsa@telotech.uucp *(comp.sources.misc mail to comp-sources-misc[-request]@backbone.site, please)* *Third party vote-collection service: send mail to allbery@uunet.uu.net (ONLY)* expnet.all: Experiments in *net management and organization. Mail me for info.