bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) (11/28/89)
Enclosed are the results of the "rec.aquarium" vote. My intent was
to provide aquarium lovers an alternative to the controversial
"sci.aquaria" name. This goal failed.
The charter for the proposed rec.aquarium was identical to the old alt.aquaria
charter:
OLD: alt.aquaria The aquarium & related as a hobby.
NEW: rec.aquarium The aquarium & related as a hobby.
The sci.aquaria vote turned into a complete farce. Theoretically the
two calls for votes should have garnered similar total counts. However,
I did not hype the rec.aquarium vote. There were no massive cross-posting,
no giant block votes, no rash of forged postings, and no fantastic jokes in
rec.humor. Nobody even posted to alt.sex with the message "To keep alt.sex,
send a "YES on sci.aquaria" vote to...".
The sci.aquaria vote passed by (about) 40 votes; 38 of which came from
Richard Sexton's home site. I did not campaign at my own site.
A principal poster on the sci.aquaria issue even offered to provide me with
a set of forged YES votes with legal dates and user names! What crock!
---------------------For the net.historians-----------------------------------
(-: Oh, no!, "net.historians is namespace abuse!" :-)
This vote was remarkably will disciplined. Virtually all voters complied
with the requirement of a "real name". Most other vote counts contain
lots of votes with just an address like "somewhere!nowhere!podunk!jsfs".
Few YES voters said more than, "thanks", or "I agree". About half the
NO voters left comments. Half of those were to the effect of "I'm voting
NO because of [real or perceived] violations of net rules". Just 5 wanted
alternate names (rec.aquariums was first, rec.pets.aquarium second,
rec.aquaria third).
One YES came from the bogus sci.misc posting.
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106 YES votes
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----- -----, wyle@inf.ethz.ch
----- Wine, wine@cs.ucla.edu
A.E.Mossberg, aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
Alan Char, uunet!xilinx!atari!achar
Albert Smith, bowler@athena.mit.edu
Andy Pitts, uunet!cs.utexas.edu!gatech.edu!rbdc!andy
Ashwin Ram, ashwin%pravda@gatech.edu
Bernd Sluka, uunet!stoch.fmi.uni-passau.de!sluka
Bill Haake, haake@cvs.rochester.edu
Bill Schell, allegra!bill
Bill Sommerfeld, sommerfeld@apollo.com
Bill Thacker, wbt@cbnews.att.com
Bruce Cohen, bic@cgl.ucsf.edu
Bryce Nesbitt, bryce@commodore.COM
Bryon Johnson, uunet!telly.on.ca!bryon
Charles A. Anderson, caa@garnet.ssd.cdc.com
Charles Balan, unccab@med.unc.edu
Christopher Hassell, hassell@tramp.colorado.edu
Christopher K Davis, ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu
Craig Jackson drilex1, ll-xn!dricejb@drilex.DRI.MGH.COM
Craig Williamson, craig%ncrcae@ncrlnk.dayton.ncr.com
D. W. James, vnend@phoenix.princeton.edu
Dale C. Cook, cook@pinocchio.encore.com
Dan Corrin, dan@engrg.uwo.ca
Dan Nydick, dan@faraday.ece.cmu.edu
Dan O'Neill, uunet!asihub!dan
Dave Cline, uunet!m1!dave
Dave Mack, uunet!alembic.ACS.COM!csu
Dave Sill, dsill@relay.nswc.navy.mil
David H. Brierley, uunet!Galaxia.Newport.RI.US!dave
David Messer, uunet!viper.Lynx.MN.Org!dave
David Shaffer, pyuxf!daves@bellcore.bellcore.com
David Wright, dww@stl.stc.co.uk
Dean Pentcheff, dean@nsr.bioeng.washington.edu
Don May, uunet!convex!may
Doug Bailey, bnr-vpa!bnr-fos!bmers58!dbailey@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
Eric P. Scott, eps@toaster.sfsu.edu
Ethan Miller, elm@chilli.berkeley.edu
Evan Leibovitch, uunet!telly.on.ca!evan
Frank, rsoft!frank@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca
Fred Rump from home, icdi10!fr@cdin-1.uu.net
Gary Ansok, ansok@stsci.edu
George Booth, booth@hpmtlgb.hp.com
Gilbert W. Pilz, gil@banyan.banyan.com
Glenn R. Stone, gs26%prism@gatech.edu
Greg Ostravich, uunet!ssbell!grego
Hilarie Nickerson, uunet!ginosko!ames.arc.nasa.gov!zodiac!hil
J G Miller, miller@ria.ccs.uwo.ca
J. Christian A. Peper, peper1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
J.A. Fagan, lopez!preacher@sharkey.cc.umich.edu
James Drew, uunet!cs.uoregon.edu!jdrew
James Jones, uunet!mcrware!jejones
James Sterbenz, uunet!wugate!wucs1!jps
Jay Maynard, uunet!splut.conmicro.com!jay
Jeff Daniel, uunet!ficc!jeffd
Jeff Jones, uunet!gistdev.UUCP:jcj!gistdev!
Joe Collins, joec@morgan.com
Karl F. Fox, uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!zip!karl
Kathryn Fielding, uunet!zardoz!ohio!kathryn
Ken A Irwin, kai@ihlpa.att.com
Kim E. DeVaughn, uunet!uts.amdahl.com!kim
Lynn G. Salmon, salmon@tybalt.caltech.edu
Maarten Litmaath, maart@cs.vu.nl
Marc Quattromani, quattro@convex.com
Mark Moraes, moraes@csri.toronto.edu
Mark-Jason Dominus, entropy@pawl.rpi.edu
Matt Austern, austern@lbl.gov
Matthias Urlich, urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de
Mike McCurdy, mccurdy%ucselx@sdsu.edu
Paul F. Dietz, dietz@cs.rochester.edu
Paul Graham, pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu
Paul Ryan, pgr@debussy.csg.uiuc.edu
Peter Da Silva, ficc!peter@uunet
Piet van Oostrum, piet@cs.ruu.nl
Ralph Clark, clark@ttidca.TTI.COM
Randell Jesup, jesup@commodore.COM
Ray Dunn, uunet!philmtl.philips.ca!ray
Richard Brosseau, dciem!cognos!richardb
Richard Champeaux, rchampe@hubcap.clemson.edu
Richard J Otter, apple!well!ricko
Richard White, rw@aipna.edinburgh.ac.uk
Rick Gillespie, rwg@solbourne.com
Ronald J. Dean, uunet!pdn.paradyne.com!rjd
Rose Marie Daniels, bdrc!rmd@mcnc.mcnc.org
Rune Nerg}rd, uunet!ifi.uio.no!runene
Rusty Carruth, uunet!cadnetix.COM!rusty
Samuel Katz, sammy@arrakis.psi.siemens.COM
Sandra Jessica Smyth, toto@tank.uchicago.edu
Scott Goehring, gt4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Scott Paisley, paisley@cme.nist.gov
Shadow, ez000691@vega.ucdavis.edu
Stephen Dampier, uunet!piddle!stephen
Steve Rader, rader@cs.wisc.edu
Stuart Warmink, sw@groucho.att.com
Susan Scheide -CFI-, susans@cfisun.cfi.com
Suzy Marie Mercer, suzy@tank.uchicago.edu
Ted Conwell, conwell@rd1632.dayton.ncr.com
Tidak Apa, ficc!birwin@uunet
Tom Blakely, tfb@corvair
Tom Jaskiewicz, uunet!garp.MIT.EDU!mit-eddie!Alliant.COM!tj
Tom Ming-Feng Chang, mfc@ravel.csg.uiuc.edu
Wayne Messard, mesard@wilma.bbn.com
William David Haas, dav@eleazar.dartmouth.edu
William Maceown, mackeown@compsci.bristol.ac.uk
news aka randy, uunet!m2xenix!news
79 NO Votes
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---------------, emv@math.lsa.umich.edu
Alex Jenkins, atj@prism.tmc.com
Alexander Haley, ahaley@jarthur.claremont.edu
Andrew Boardman, amb@cs.columbia.edu
Anton Rang, rang@cs.wisc.edu
Arthur David Olson, elsie!ado@nih-csl.dcrt.nih.gov
Bengt Larsson, bengtl@maths.lth.se
Brad Roberts, brad@pedev.Columbia.NCR.COM
Brian Ehrmantraut, bae@auspex.com uunet!auspex!bae
Brian G. Gordon, briang@Corp.Sun.COM
Carl Paukstis, carlp@ISC-BR.COM uunet!iscuva.iscs.com!iscuva!frigg!carlp
Carl S. Gutekunst, csg@pyramid.com
Carlo Sgro, electro!carlo@watcgl.waterloo.edu
Carlton B. Hommel, carlton@apollo.hp.com
Chip Salzenberg, chip@ateng.com
Chris Koenigsberg, ckk@andrew.cmu.edu
Chris Lewis, uunet!attcan!lsuc!eci386!clewis
Craig E. Ward, cew@venera.isi.edu
Dan Hoey, hoey@etl.army.mil
Dan Lance, drl@corpane.com uunet!ukma!corpane.uucp!drl
Dave O'Brien, daveo@mipon3.intel.com
David Bedno, davidbe@sco.COM
David S. Browning, browning@math.ucla.edu
David S. Comay, dsc@seismo.css.gov
Dean Hougen, hougen@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu
Dennis Franciskovich, franciskovich-dennis@cs.yale.edu
Ed Hall, edhall%ives@rand.org
Gary Sutcliffe, astroatc!nicmad!grc!gary@uwvax.cs.wisc.edu
Howard Steel, Howard.Steel@Waterloo.NCR.COM
J. Deters, jad@dayton.DHDSC.MN.ORG
James Kowalczyk, James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Jim Pickering, pyramid!polyslo!rducky!jrp
Jim Winer, jwi@lzfme.ATT.COM
Joe Buck, jbuck@janus.berkeley.edu
Joel Gringorten, gringort@wsl.dec.com
John B. Berryhill, berryh@huey.udel.edu
John Bridge, BRIDGE%rcgl1@eng.eng.ohio-state.edu
John F. Haugh II, rpp386!jfh@cs.utexas.edu jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
John Woods, uunet!cs.utexas.edu!frog!john
Ken Arromdee, arromdee@crabcake.cs.jhu.edu
Ken Ledbetter, ledbette@watserv1.waterloo.edu
Ken Ronny, Schouten kenrsc%hpserv2@sfd.uit.no
Len Tower, tower@bu-it.bu.edu
Malcolm Mladenovic, mbm@dsbc.icl.stc.co.uk
Mark H. Weber, markw@GVL.Unisys.COM
Mark Nettleingham, uunet!hunny.att.com!ll1a!markn
Mark-Jason Dominus, entropy@pawl.rpi.EDU
Mathew, smm12@computer-lab.cambridge.ac.uk
Michael A. Sanderson, sanders@cs.ubc.ca uunet!ubc-cs!sanders
Mike Richman, richman@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
Miriam Nadel, mhnadel@gryphon.COM
Mitchell K. Collinsworth,mitch@squid.graphics.cornell.edu
Neil Readwin, nreadwin@uk.co.mic.lon uunet!mcvax!ukc!miclon!nreadwin
Nelson Broat, NMBCU@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Oleg Kiselev, oleg@gryphon.COM
Oliver Laumann, net@TUB.BITNET uunet!relay.EU.net!tub!net
Patricia O Tuama, rissa@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
Patrick T. Garvin, ptgarvin@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
Pichard Welty, welty@lewis.crd.ge.com
Ray Baxter, ray@hudson.stanford.edu
Rich Kulawiec, rsk@boulder.colorado.edu
Richard Fritzson, fritzson@prc.unisys.com
Richard H. Miller, rick@pavlov.bcm.tmc.edu
Richard Sexton, richard@gryphon.com
Rob Sartin, sartin@hplabs.hp.com
Robert Douglas, rdouglas@hpda.HP.COM
Rock Kent, uunet!rancho!rock
Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com
S. Alexander Ridgway, alexr@tybalt.caltech.edu
Scott Davis, scott%mccall@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu
Steve Hanks, hanks@june.cs.washington.edu
Steven A Carrow, uunet!nrl-css!carrow
Steven L. Baur, baur@venice.sedd.trw.com
Terry J. Wood, tjw%vms.cis.pitt.edu@unix.cis.pitt.edu
Travis Lee Winfrey, travis@douglass.cs.columbia.edu
Valerie Drake, vdra_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Walter Garcia-Fontes, walt@portia.stanford.edu
Werner Uhrig, werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu
William Lohmann, willil@pdx.MENTOR.COM
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Lawyers: America's untapped export market.richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (11/29/89)
In article <8735@cbmvax.UUCP> bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: > >A principal poster on the sci.aquaria issue even offered to provide me with >a set of forged YES votes with legal dates and user names! What crock! That was me. Here, you obviously need this: :-) >106 YES votes > >79 NO Votes Try again with rec.aquaria. It will pass. -- USENET: where the name goes on, before the quality goes in. richard@gryphon.COM {routing site}!gryphon!richard
tjw@unix.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood WA3VQJ) (11/29/89)
In article <8735@cbmvax.UUCP> bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: >A principal poster on the sci.aquaria issue even offered to provide me with >a set of forged YES votes with legal dates and user names! What crock! You should expose this net.villain! His/her name should be entered into "Tim's USENET Hall of Shame". >79 NO Votes >============== >Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com Now I'm sure that *this* vote is official. Terry -- INTERNET: tjw@unix.cis.pitt.edu BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS CC-NET: 33802::tjw UUCP: {decwrl!decvax!idis, allegra, bellcore}!pitt!unix.cis.pitt.edu!tjw And if dreams could come true, I'd still be there with you, On the banks of cold waters at the close of the day. - as sung by Sally Rogers
schwartz@shire.cs.psu.edu (Scott Schwartz) (11/29/89)
In article <22829@gryphon.COM> richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: |In article <8735@cbmvax.UUCP> bryce@cbmvax.UUCP (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: |>A principal poster on the sci.aquaria issue even offered to provide me with |>a set of forged YES votes with legal dates and user names! What crock! | |That was me. Here, you obviously need this: :-) Sorry, no smileys accepted. There is reason to believe that in the sci.aquaria vote all the YES votes listed as coming from psu were forged. Friends of yours, Richard? :-( -- Scott Schwartz <schwartz@shire.cs.psu.edu> Now back to our regularly scheduled programming....
entropy@pawl.rpi.edu (Just Another Math Student) (12/01/89)
In article <8911281000.AA03757@cbmvax.UUCP> bryce@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: > 106 YES votes > ============= >[...] > Mark-Jason Dominus, entropy@pawl.rpi.edu >[...] > > 79 NO Votes > ============== >[...] > Mark-Jason Dominus, entropy@pawl.rpi.EDU >[...] > Hoo-hah. What an idea. Frankly, Bryce, I think that another one of me is a concept for which the Universe is not quite ready. Most people think that one was pleanty bad enough. Oh well, life goes on, I suppose. This is sort of like that deal where two congreepersons agree to vote in opposite directions so that neither of them has to show up. Only much more convenient. -- The wicked flee when no one pursueth. Mark-Jason Dominus entropy@pawl.rpi.EDU entropy@rpitsmts (BITnet)