MATON%SASK.BITNET@EVANS.UCAR.EDU (12/19/89)
This is a formal call for votes on the formation of a new newsgroup to be called soc.culture.british The name was generally agreed upon during the discussion phase. This group will be unmoderated. Some of the primary uses of the group might include: *Discussion of foods found in Britain *Discussion of word uses in Britain *Questions of things British that are strange or wierd to people from other cultures. *All the normal things discussed, questioned etc. in the 'soc.culture' groups *British culture in general (what else?) You may vote YES or NO by sending mail to maton@dvinci.usask.ca (UUCP) or MATON@SASK (BITNET) or if all else fails try MATON@SASK.USask.ca It is helpful, but not necessary if you specify your vote in the subject line. POSTED VOTES DO NOT COUNT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. You may change your vote by clearly indicating both your new vote and the fact that you are changing your vote in the subject line or the body of the message. It is preferable to simply put the line 'I vote YES to the formation of the newsgroup soc.culture.british' or 'I vote NO to the formation of the newsgroup soc.culture.british' as your message. The voting will continue through January 20th, 1990. Any Votes RECEIVED after this date will not be counted. I will post a mass acknowledgement of votes at that time, along with the results. I will also post one or two additional calls for votes before that time, in case anyone misses this one. Terry Maton University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada uucp address: maton@dvinci.USask.ca bitnet address: MATON@SASK.BITNET ******* One Planet - One People - PLEASE *******
jpi@research.linkage.com (Jean-Paul Inso) (12/21/89)
In article <8912181809.AA01062@ncar.ucar.EDU>, MATON%SASK.BITNET@EVANS.UCAR.EDU crossposts to ALL the above groups, except for news.admin, which I added. This wanton crossposting of talk.bizarre stupidity by talk.bizarre stupids must cease; I at least am quite fed up with these people and their inability to keep their trash in their own group. We do not receive talk.bizarre here and we do not want to and this continual crossposting of talk.bizarre article to other groups is a subversion of a News Administrator's control over his feed. I recommend that we proceed at once with Gregory Paris' suggestion, which was to refuse to propagate talk.bizarre from site to site; then talk.bizarre would continue to exist, but much diminished; I think it would eventually fade away. Shouldn't unneighborly conduct on the net be discouraged? Shouldn't this barrage of crossposting cease? Shouldn't we stop propagating talk.bizarre? +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jean-Paul Inso, systems programmer, Linkage Systems Inc. (518)-272-6197 | |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][*][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ QUIT ,
gln@cs.arizona.edu (GaRY NEwelL) (12/26/89)
This seems to be a bit of overkill don't you think? I mean this group (s.c.celtic)is lucky to have a dozen articles a week, and it already (at least in theory) deals with the Scottish and Welsh. Never in the past has the fact that it is designed for Celtic subjects prevented various folks from posting topics that were clearly English and I doubt that these topics would suddenly become off limits. I guess before I would vote yes I would like to see some sort of justification for the group. Where is the demand? What about cross-posting problems (My guess is that a posting that deals with say Scottish meat pies would belong in both groups - why have two groups covering the same material??? why not have a soc.culture.english instead?? Now that I would love to vote for...... gln
david@indetech.com (David Kuder) (12/28/89)
In article <16026@linkage.com> jpi@research.linkage.com (Jean-Paul Inso) writes: >In article <8912181809.AA01062@ncar.ucar.EDU>, >MATON%SASK.BITNET@EVANS.UCAR.EDU crossposts to ALL the above ... And you do too. >Shouldn't unneighborly conduct on the net be discouraged? Yes. >Shouldn't this barrage of crossposting cease? Perhaps. I didn't see the original article but calls for discussion of new news groups are often cross posted to many groups under the impression that folks in those groups will be interested in the new group. In this case the poster may have been under the impression that talk.bizarre habitants were interested in British culture. >Shouldn't we stop propagating talk.bizarre? No. If they are willing to annoy the net for a cheap thrill they may go ape if their toy is taken away. One thing USENET is not about is good manners. If the anarachy bothers you, you can pay good money for a well managed and civilized venue. >QUIT >, Please! -- David A. Kuder Now what coach? 415 438-2003 david@indetech.com {uunet,sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!david
war@indetech.com (Andy R.) (12/28/89)
My main man, david@indetech.com (David Kuder) appears in t.b thus:
] In article <16026@linkage.com> jpi@research.linkage.com (Jean-Paul Inso) writes:
] >In article <8912181809.AA01062@ncar.ucar.EDU>,
] >MATON%SASK.BITNET@EVANS.UCAR.EDU crossposts to ALL the above ...
] And you do too.
]
] >Shouldn't we stop propagating talk.bizarre?
] No. If they are willing to annoy the net for a cheap thrill
] they may go ape if their toy is taken away. One thing USENET is not
] about is good manners. If the anarachy bothers you, you can pay good
] money for a well managed and civilized venue.
]
] >QUIT
] >,
] Please!
] --
] David A. Kuder Now what coach?
As David's "coach", I suppose I should throw a suggestion here. Maybe
something along the lines of:
"Post more to t.b. Unwind your mind, and unrestrain yer brain."
Although, this *IS* a work place. So maybe:
"What the HELL are YOU doing in t.b? Not enough to DO?"
But then, under that one I SHOULDN'T be in t.b either. Oh the bitterness
of it all.
Sigh.
"they" call me: mr MAYBE I'LL JUST IGNORE IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS Andy R.
(33 blue. 33 blue. hut.)
--
Well within computational bounds my *foot*!
tale@cs.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) (12/29/89)
In <16364@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (GaRY NEwelL) writes: > I mean this group (s.c.celtic)is lucky to have a dozen articles a > week, and it already (at least in theory) deals with the Scottish > and Welsh. Never in the past has the fact that it is designed for > Celtic subjects prevented various folks from posting topics that > were clearly English and I doubt that these topics would suddenly > become off limits. > why not have a soc.culture.english instead?? Now that I would love > to vote for...... WoW! This hardly sounds like the Gary L Newell that flamed my butt when I dared to make a posting to that group about England. I would love to follow a group about the UK, as my mother is from Berkeley and I try to at least keep some of that heritage, but that "warm" reception and the seemingly never-ending articles about the IRA caused me to unsubscribe after only about a month of reading soc.culture.celtic. Granted, perhaps it was a bad month. I also don't remember too clearly what it was that I posted, but only that a few kind souls lept to my defense in reply to Gary. As I recall (this was, indeed, a couple of years ago -- the climate may have changed markedly) the basic tone of his article had been that English postings were unwelcome. Maybe it's time I gave the group another go. (This isn't a flame on Gary; I don't think I flamed him then either, though I might have. It just brings back some memories which make his article surprising to me.) Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@cs.rpi.edu" "tale@ai.mit.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))