evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (12/22/89)
I would like to find out if there is interest in a group of this name,
to be a companion to, but not a replacement for, alt.sex.
CHARTER:
The intent of this group is to be a place where people can post ONLY:
- original fiction of a sexual nature:
- reviews, lists and pointers to erotic lierature available elsewhere.
REASONING:
There has been some frustration expressed with the present volume of
postings in alt.sex. There is a certain subset of the postings which
could be called 'erotic fiction', which a number of sites have expressed
an interest in archiving.
In addition to relieving some of the traffic in alt.sex, this group
would make it easier for those sites which wish to archive only these
articles.
I believe that rec.arts.erotica is the appropriate place in the Usenet
hierarchy for a group of this nature, though I am not adverse to
suggestions which may be preferable. I believe the net has matured
(sic), so that while soc.sex could not be created some years ago
(despite I recall, a large vote in its favour), the present net may
be more tolerant. IMO This is especially true, since based on the number
of such postings in alt.sex, I expect the volume of this group to be
reasonably low, and perhaps more acceptable than a catch-all sex group.
MODERATION:
I would prefer for this group not to be moderated, but I suspect it
would be unavoidable to keep the noise down. The only purpose of the
moderation would be to restrict postings which do not meet the above
charter. I have no intention of taking any action regarding the taste,
sexism, orientation or legitimacy in any individual posting. If it is
considered desirable, I could make sure the appropriate postings
are rot13ed.
I could also possibly add keywords which would give readers a guide of
what to skip. But I would not otherwise touch postings. Spelling errors,
profanity, etc. remain as is. Read at your risk.
If someone else wants to moderate, be my guest. I just want to get this
thing off the ground.
COMPILATION COPYRIGHT:
There will explicity be none. Any such rights which may exist are
renounced at this time.
Please direct comment to news.groups.
--
Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!attcan!telly!evan / (416)452-0504
"That's the last time I buy aftershave at a gas station" - Sam Maloneevan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (12/23/89)
I would like to find out if there is interest in a group of this name,
to be a companion to, but not a replacement for, alt.sex.
CHARTER:
The intent of this group is to be a place where people can post ONLY:
- original fiction of a sexual nature:
- reviews, lists and pointers to erotic lierature available elsewhere.
REASONING:
There has been some frustration expressed with the present volume of
postings in alt.sex. There is a certain subset of the postings which
could be called 'erotic fiction', which a number of sites have expressed
an interest in archiving.
In addition to relieving some of the traffic in alt.sex, this group
would make it easier for those sites which wish to archive only these
articles.
I believe that rec.arts.erotica is the appropriate place in the Usenet
hierarchy for a group of this nature, though I am not adverse to
suggestions which may be preferable. I believe the net has matured
(sic), so that while soc.sex could not be created some years ago
(despite I recall, a large vote in its favour), the present net may
be more tolerant. IMO This is especially true, since based on the number
of such postings in alt.sex, I expect the volume of this group to be
reasonably low, and perhaps more acceptable than a catch-all sex group.
MODERATION:
I would prefer for this group not to be moderated, but I suspect it
would be unavoidable to keep the noise down. The only purpose of the
moderation would be to restrict postings which do not meet the above
charter. I have no intention of taking any action regarding the taste,
sexism, orientation or legitimacy in any individual posting. If it is
considered desirable, I could make sure the appropriate postings
are rot13ed.
I could also possibly add keywords which would give readers a guide of
what to skip. But I would not otherwise touch postings. Spelling errors,
profanity, etc. remain as is. Read at your risk.
If someone else wants to moderate, be my guest. I just want to get this
thing off the ground.
COMPILATION COPYRIGHT:
There will explicity be none. Any such rights which may exist are
renounced at this time.
Please direct comment to news.groups.
--
Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!attcan!telly!evan / (416)452-0504
"That's the last time I buy aftershave at a gas station" - Sam Maloneaem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg) (12/23/89)
In article <25926E9D.316A@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: >The intent of this group is to be a place where people can post ONLY: >- original fiction of a sexual nature: >- reviews, lists and pointers to erotic lierature available elsewhere. Well, that last one should be, I think, "reviews, lists, and pointers to erotica available elsewhere", i.e. not exclusively literature, but the whole of what could be termed erotica. I think this is an excellent proposal by Evan, who would undoubtably be a superlative moderator. Let me through in a few poems while I'm here, Meta Bill Meta who soft keeps for him his love's long girl's body sweet to fuck Bill. - William Faulkner Of beasts, man is the only one Created by our God Who purposely, and for mere fun Plays with his Mammoth Cod! - Mark Twain On a less literary note, let me throw in a quick limerick, Old Louis Quatorze was hot stuff. He tired of that game, blindman's buff, Up-ended his mistress, Kissed hers while she kissed his, And thus taught the world soixante-neuf. heh heh aem -- a.e.mossberg / aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu / aem@umiami.BITNET / Pahayokee Bioregion All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume. - Noam Chomsky
sullivan@aqdata.uucp (Michael T. Sullivan) (12/23/89)
I should think alt.sex.erotica would be your best bet. One person's "erotica" is another's "slime" (just ask my wife) and should best be kept under the alt.sex family. -- Michael Sullivan uunet!jarthur.uucp!aqdata!sullivan aQdata, Inc. San Dimas, CA
gld@CUNIXD.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Gary L Dare) (12/23/89)
Okay, I'll vote YES! If people can submit prose to alt.prose and movie reviews to Rec.arts.movies, why not amateur erotica? gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare Jesus Saves! > gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU *temp. Gretzky gets the rebound - > gld@cunixc.BITNET he shoots, he scores!
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (12/27/89)
Perhaps this would fit better under alt.sex.something-or-other for all of the reasons that they are alt groups. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (12/27/89)
In article <2592700B.3216@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: | suggestions which may be preferable. I believe the net has matured | (sic), so that while soc.sex could not be created some years ago | (despite I recall, a large vote in its favour), the present net may | be more tolerant. IMO This is especially true, since based on the number I have seen no indication that the character of management in the industry has changed. I think the moderated group is probably appropriate, but I would be a lot happier seeing it under the alt category, since that is where most of the other controversial groups reside. Be warned that at least three people have suggested a separate group and all have been shouted down on the assumption that they wanted censorship. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
cel@uxrd15.UUCP (Ed Leihy (x5949)) (12/27/89)
In article <2592700B.3216@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: >I would like to find out if there is interest in a group of this name, >to be a companion to, but not a replacement for, alt.sex. > >CHARTER: > >The intent of this group ... > >- original fiction of a sexual nature: > Yes, I would certainly like to publish!!
kjones@talos.uu.net (Kyle Jones) (12/28/89)
Evan Leibovitch writes: > The intent of this group is to be a place where people can post ONLY: > - original fiction of a sexual nature: > - reviews, lists and pointers to erotic lierature available elsewhere. > > REASONING: > > There has been some frustration expressed with the present volume of > postings in alt.sex. There is a certain subset of the postings which > could be called 'erotic fiction', which a number of sites have expressed > an interest in archiving. An alternative, at least for archiving sites, is to start up an .index for alt.sex that indexed the relevant postings in alt.sex. At present no newsreaders know what to do with the data in index newsgroups, so that won't help people reading news to sift through the discussion.
tale@cs.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) (12/28/89)
In <8912230929.AA06191@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu> gld@CUNIXD.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Gary L Dare) writes: > If people can submit prose to alt.prose and movie reviews to > Rec.arts.movies, why not amateur erotica? No reason; they already do to alt.sex and could cross-post to alt.prose with perhaps only some bickering from the handful of people that like to bicker about, in alt.prose.d, many of the things posted to alt.prose including several stories from talk.bizarre that didn't happen to meet _their_ definition of prose. I am not 100% sure what your question means. In the USENET and altnet as a whole, no one is preventing anyone[1] from posting erotica, lack of rec.arts.erotica notwithstanding. If this group proposal fails, that situation will almost certain remain the same, or perhaps someone will finally make alt.sex.stories which gets suggested every couple of months. This latter group is indeed what I would suggest for the discussion forum, but it has its own special problems with how it could possibly be perceived differently from rec.arts.erotica concerning the merit of the stories. I don't fully understand this (or just about anything dealing with society, hang-ups and general perceptions of sex -- from where I sit it looks like an endless stream of irrational contradictions and confusion) so I won't get involved in that part of the argument. [1] There are of course probably numerous counter-examples in microcosms around the net representing everything from people preventing themselves to sites not getting the groups or their preventing any posting at all. The creation of rec.arts.erotica would probably not significantly change these examples, though. Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@cs.rpi.edu" "tale@ai.mit.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))
michelle (Bijo Unknown, Poet) (12/29/89)
In article <2592700B.3216@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca
(Evan Leibovitch) proposes the subgroup alt.sex.erotica.
my vote:
Group [x] yes
Moderated [x] no
--
We should all get accupressure together, and take advantage of the grope rate. --stevenbthreth@agora.hf.intel.com (the wyvern) (12/31/89)
I'm all in favor of creating a newsgroup as you describe, whether it's rec.arts.erotica or alt.sex.erotica--or comp.nerds.lonely for that matter! :-) Reading alt.sex has turned into an adventure with the 'k' key, and my alt.sex "KILL" file runneth over... This has been proposed often enough; let's see it actually tried! No fancy .sig! threth@agora.hf.intel.com
lebrun@geocub.greco-prog.fr (01/04/90)
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: >I would like to find out if there is interest in a group of this name, >to be a companion to, but not a replacement for, alt.sex. > .... Well, yes, I am interested... And there are many potential readers around me... Charles-Albert LEBRUN uunet!{mcsun,mcvax}!inria!geocub!goofi!lebrun CS-student lebrun@mdl.bull.fr