[news.groups] new moderator needed for c.b.i.p

dhesi%cirrusl@oliveb.ATC.olivetti.com (Rahul Dhesi) (01/04/90)

I have not posted software in comp.binaries.ibm.pc at a very fast rate
in recent months.  This is mostly due to a lack of time.  In fairness
to the public, I have decided to resign from moderating
comp.binaries.ibm.pc.  The position of moderator is therefore open.

However, I haven't resigned yet; I will wait until a new moderator is
ready.

While a new moderator is found, I will clear the current queue.  All
pending software will be posted with little or no testing and in the
format in which it arrived.  (This could possibly cause occasional
problems during extraction.  But one purpose of moderation, i.e. to
keep non-binaries out of the newsgroup, will still be served.  This
situation is only temporary for the next few weeks.)

In the meantime, it's best if you don't send me any new software for
posting.  I have enough pending for about 4 to 6 weeks, and by then a
new moderator will be coming online.

                      SELECTION OF NEW MODERATOR

The fairest way of finding a new moderator is for the c.b.i.p community
to vote on the issue.  I will get the ball rolling by collecting
resumes, and will then hand over the actual vote to one of the net
heavyweights in this newsgroup.   (NOTE: THE VOTE HASN'T BEGUN YET.)

Step 1.  The nomination period.  If you would like to moderate this
newsgroup, send me your resume by email.  Limit: 44 lines (two screens)
or less, each line of no more than 79 characters.  The nomination
period closes at the end of January 14, 1990, which allows a week for
news propagation and three days for people to think about it.

Step 2.  The discussion period.  After the nomination period closes, I
will post all resumes received, and there will be a two-week discussion
period.  (Before the nomination period closes, if you want people to
know about you, you may on your own post any information you wish.)

Step 3. The vote.  Then the vote will begin.  As always, all votes
shall be sent by electronic mail.  To avoid delaying the selection too
much, the voting period will be two weeks.  (NOTE: THE VOTE HASN'T
BEGUN YET.)

Step 4. The results of the vote will be sent to Gene Spafford, net god
and maintainer of the list of all Usenet moderators, for final action.

This procedure should allow enough time for the vote to be fair.

This article is cross-posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d and
news.groups.  Follow-ups are directed to comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d, NOT to
news.groups.

Candidates for moderator should send resumes to me at the address
below.

Rahul Dhesi <dhesi%cirrusl@oliveb.ATC.olivetti.com>
UUCP:  oliveb!cirrusl!dhesi

ggw@wolves.uucp (Gregory G. Woodbury) (02/04/90)

There is a *SERIOUS* problem in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.
The official moderator seems to have abandoned it and, while there was
a brief flurry (well a few messages) of activity and talk of electing
a  new moderator, nothing seems to be happening.

Since the net.gods tend to ignore c.b.i.p, I have crossed this to
news.groups in a feeble attempt to get some of them interested in the
plight of this valuable resource.

It is often the case that there may be a lot of negotiating and
activity behind the scenes, but the it would be nice to get some kind
of a status report occasionally.

Does anyone out there *know* what has happend to Raul or knows (or has
strong opinions) on what to do when a moderator abandons his post?
-- 
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peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (02/05/90)

In article <1990Feb4.063927.15980@wolves.uucp> ggw@wolves.UUCP (Gregory G. Woodbury) writes:
> Does anyone out there *know* what has happend to Raul or knows (or has
> strong opinions) on what to do when a moderator abandons his post?

When a moderator abandons his post, the group stands fallow until another
sucker is found. The first person to complain on the subject in news.groups
is usually volunteered. That's you. Wear it in good health.
-- 
 _--_|\  Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. <peter@ficc.uu.net>.
/      \
\_.--._/ Xenix Support -- it's not just a job, it's an adventure!
      v  "Have you hugged your wolf today?" `-_-'

davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (02/06/90)

In article <1990Feb4.063927.15980@wolves.uucp> ggw@wolves.UUCP (Gregory G. Woodbury) writes:

| It is often the case that there may be a lot of negotiating and
| activity behind the scenes, but the it would be nice to get some kind
| of a status report occasionally.

  See my previous posting. We have been trying to do things quietly
until everything was in place.

| Does anyone out there *know* what has happend to Raul or knows (or has
| strong opinions) on what to do when a moderator abandons his post?
-- 
	bill davidsen - sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX
davidsen@sixhub.uucp		...!uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen

"Getting old is bad, but it beats the hell out of the alternative" -anon

davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (02/07/90)

In article <VHJ1BFxds13@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:

| When a moderator abandons his post, the group stands fallow until another
| sucker is found. The first person to complain on the subject in news.groups
| is usually volunteered. That's you. Wear it in good health.

  Peter, I'll try to explain this again, since I haven't been able to
make it clear before:
	1. Rahul called for resumes. He got only one (mine) and
	   therefore told me I won. 
	2. I began preparing to handle the group on sixhub, ordering new
	   disk and getting an alias on a well connected machine.
	3. Rahul sent me part of the stuff used to make the postings. He
	   sent me none of the backlog because I wasn't ready.
	4. Keith Petersen asked Gene to appoint a new moderator.
	5. I asked for clarification from Gene to determine of Rahul had
	   contacted him officially.
	6. You have gone ahead and appointed someone else as moderator,
	   based on authority I didn't know you had.

  Now that that's clear... I will leave the new disk in the box until
this is clarified, and will not be accepting any contributions until
that time. If anyone other than Rahul who took the resumes and Gene who
publishes the list has authority to appoint a new moderator, please state
it so we can stop wasting time on this.
-- 
bill davidsen	(davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen)
            "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me

ggw@wolves.uucp (Gregory G. Woodbury) (02/07/90)

In article <VHJ1BFxds13@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1990Feb4.063927.15980@wolves.uucp> (Gregory G. Woodbury) writes:
>> Does anyone out there *know* what has happend to Raul or knows (or has
>> strong opinions) on what to do when a moderator abandons his post?
>
>When a moderator abandons his post, the group stands fallow until another
>sucker is found. The first person to complain on the subject in news.groups
>is usually volunteered. That's you. Wear it in good health.
>-- 
> _--_|\  Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. <peter@ficc.uu.net>.
>/      \
>\_.--._/ Xenix Support -- it's not just a job, it's an adventure!
>      v  "Have you hugged your wolf today?" `-_-'
                                               U

	Thanks for the offer, but I don't own a DOS machine!  I don't
use DOS (if I can help it) and (above all) don't have internet connections
or archive space available.

	There are several people who HAVE volunteered, we just need to get
the net.gods blessings on how to move one of them into the hot (er. host)
seat.

	BTW.. I did not mean to heavily criticize Raul nor do I really
accuse him of "abandonment".  It was a poor choice of words.  He is extremly
busy in his job (aren't we all?) and simply does not have the time.


-- 
Gregory G. Woodbury
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