[news.groups] Moderation in moderation

mwm@eris.UUCP (02/14/87)

In article <5663@amdahl.UUCP> kim@amdahl.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) writes:
>Most recently, Mike Meyer sent something to Purdue for moderated posting
>(as a test case I think).  This was 10 days ago ... has it shown up
>anyplace (besides Purdue, that is?)

No, it was to demonstrate faith in moderated news groups. I sent it
twice (after getting a message about having sent an empty file). I
haven't seen anything, and will be posting it here (comp.sys.amiga)
shortly. So much for faith.

I suspect that the problem is that ulowell does _not_ have a reliable
connection to the outside world. I just changed all the ulowell.csnet
entries in info-68k to !ulowell! because UUCP is more reliable than
their CSNET connection. Gag. Of course there are several requirements
for a moderated group to work; any of them could be failing in this
case.

While I'm on the subject, Barry Shein has suggested a new moderated
group for the "My Computer Is Better Than Your Computer" Wars -
including an archive, so that people interested in buying such things
could get them. I (having far more free time than I know what to do
with [Tongue firmly in cheek; actually, it's somewhere in the next
room....]. Yes Erik, I know that bdbm is next on the list.....) have
volunteered to moderate it if he'll do the net.politics to set it up.
Watch for it, coming to a usenet node near you: talk.religion.micros
:-)! 

	<mike

But I'll survive, no you won't catch me,		Mike Meyer
I'll resist the urge that is tempting me,		ucbvax!mwm
I'll avert my eyes, keep you off my knee,		mwm@berkeley.edu
But it feels so good when you talk to me.		mwm@ucbjade.BITNET

grr@cbmvax.UUCP (02/17/87)

In article <2532@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (No one lives forever.) Meyer) writes:
>In article <5663@amdahl.UUCP> kim@amdahl.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) writes:
>>Most recently, Mike Meyer sent something to Purdue for moderated posting
>>(as a test case I think).  This was 10 days ago ... has it shown up
>>anyplace (besides Purdue, that is?)
>
>I suspect that the problem is that ulowell does _not_ have a reliable
>connection to the outside world. I just changed all the ulowell.csnet
>entries in info-68k to !ulowell! because UUCP is more reliable than
>their CSNET connection. Gag. Of course there are several requirements
>for a moderated group to work; any of them could be failing in this
>case.

Serious Confusion Here:

mod.amiga.sources has naught to do with ulowell, submissions should go to
purdue.  This may or may not explain why your posting didn't show up in
mod.amiga.sources...

Recently I asked Doc what was up, and he indicated that several Indiana
sites were getting postings ok...  I sent him a list of all that had appeared
at this end (nothing for months), but received no comment on this point...

So what's the scoop?  Has anything been sent out this year?  Has anybody
received anything this year?
-- 
George Robbins - now working for,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing	arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV
Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

page@ulowell.UUCP (02/17/87)

In article <5663@amdahl.UUCP> kim@amdahl.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) writes:
>Most recently, Mike Meyer sent something to Purdue for moderated posting

Then mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (No one lives forever.) Meyer) wrote:
>I suspect that the problem is that ulowell does _not_ have a reliable
>connection to the outside world.

How did we start talking about ulowell?  Didn't you mail it to purdue?

Heat on.  This is for Mike but everyone needs to know the facts.

For the record, ulowell _does_ have a reliable connection to the
outside world.  Several of them, thank you.  Maybe purdue doesn't ?

>I just changed all the ulowell.csnet entries in info-68k to !ulowell!

That's your decision.

>because UUCP is more reliable than their CSNET connection. Gag.

CSNET works, it's just been slower in some cases over the past two
months, and should be faster in most cases now.  We never had any
_reliability_ problems, however.

Use whatever path you want.  ulowell.edu is preferred - why are you
specifying routing?

Heat off.  How's your Amiga?  How about that new Amiga 2000!

..Bob
-- 
Bob Page,  U of Lowell CS Dept.      ulowell!page,  page@ulowell.CSNET

mesard@bbn.com (Wayne Mesard) (02/10/90)

gcrum@aludra.usc.edu (Gary Crum) writes:
>Here's my proposal: Make comp.sys.sun unmoderated, and if there is a
>volunteer to do filtering, have a moderated group also.  The content
>of the moderated group could be the "best of" the unmoderated group.

Reposting best-of articles from another group is a serious waste of
bandwidth.  Over in alt.sources, we solved this problem with
alt.sources.index.  The moderator periodically posts articles containing
the message-ids and subjects of each alt.sources article worth reading.

I don't know if anyone's written a program to parse these articles and
adjust a user's .newsrc file accordingly, but a simple shell script
should do the trick.

Everyone's happy: no delays associated with moderation, no censorship
[sic], minimal bandwidth increase and those who want moderation still
have it.

Of course, the _right_ solution would be to allow post-hoc crossposting
of articles.  I.e., I send a control message out which will link an
article into a newsgroup that the original poster didn't include in the
Newsgroups line.  [There are other reasons why this would be a cool
thing to do, and IMHO future versions of the news software should
support it.]

Wayne();