[news.groups] Internet rules

xanthian@saturn.ADS.COM (Metafont Consultant Account) (02/12/90)

Kent:  I  think that this discussion needs  _much_ wider distribution!

Kent:  I hacked   this   out of several  articles in   the (Bay  Area)
Kent:  newsgroup ba.news.config,  changed  to "name" style attribution
Kent:  to  make things easier to follow   (I hope!), (including my own
Kent:  stuff, such as this) reflowed the paragraphs to  keep the lines
Kent:  on  the screen, and   added my   uneducated  comments.  A   few
Kent:  hyphenations that  ended up on the  same line  probably slipped
Kent:  through; don't blame the original authors,  it's just my flawed
Kent:  proofreading.   I hope I    got the  attributions   right.   Be
Kent:  patient, it takes a long time to get to the really scary parts,
Kent:  but  I thought the  context  was   worth having.  Followups are
Kent:  directed to news.groups.  Can the  folks who follow  news.admin
Kent:  tell  us  if,  and if so  how soon, we can expect  to see  this
Kent:  enforced?

Kent:  In  ba.news.config      article   <101264@pyramid.pyramid.com>,
Kent:  csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) wrote:

Carl:  In  article  <267@hplabs.HPL.HP.COM> rodrique@hplabs.HPL.HP.COM
Carl:  (Mike Rodriquez) writes:

Mike:  In  preparing  my  previous map  update  I was  struck  by  the
Mike:  question of  whether one should  list their (ex)-uucp neighbors
Mike:  with whom they now communicate primarily via SMTP.

Carl:  I assume you mean  that you now  communicate with them over the
Carl:  Internet?

Carl:  I have  *very* strong feelings   about this, but  every  time I
Carl:  bring it up, I get buried in a firestorm; since someone else is
Carl:  *asking*, maybe it'll be OK this time. :-)

Carl:  I feel  *very* strongly that  Internet connections should never
Carl:  be listed in UUCP map entries.  The reason is  simple: from the
Carl:  perspective of UUCP, you  can reliably reach any Internet  site
Carl:  from  any other Internet  site. If I  am  trying to reach, say,
Carl:  princeton.edu,  and I'm using the  UUCP maps for routing, and I
Carl:  am making any effort  at  all to pay attention,  I will  have a
Carl:  "top level domain"  entry for .edu that points  to  a site that
Carl:  has agreed to handle all my Internet mail. Now, if hplabs has a
Carl:  link  listed to "princeton," this will  take precedence over my
Carl:  .edu entry, and actually worsen my connectivity.  Similarly, if
Carl:  I have a  direct UUCP link  to  princeton, the hplabs  Internet
Carl:  connection may well be  "lower cost," thereby rerouting  mail I
Carl:  intended to go via UUCP over an Internet link,  thereby putting
Carl:  me at  an  unsuspected risk of  violating  one of the  Internet
Carl:  usage rules.

Carl:  The same goes for any fully connected  network -- ENet, Bitnet,
Carl:  etc.

Carl:  I do  recognize  the notion  of  "fully  connected network"  is
Carl:  sometimes far less than ideal among the multiple internets. But
Carl:  generally  speaking, the  worst  Internet path  is usually much
Carl:  better than the best dialup path.

Kent:  In    ba.news.config article   <1990Feb8.012051.7798@vicom.com>
Kent:  lmb@vicom.com (Larry Blair) wrote:

Larry:  In           article              <101264@pyramid.pyramid.com>
Larry:  csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes:

Carl:  be "lower cost," thereby  rerouting mail  I  intended to go via
Carl:  UUCP   over  an   Internet link,   thereby   putting me   at an
Carl:  unsuspected risk of violating one of the Internet usage rules.

Larry:  When we joined  the net several years  ago,  we were told that
Larry:  uucp mail could  not take a  short  cut through the  Internet.
Larry:  Interestly,  the MX system  provides  for exactly that.  Being
Larry:  one hop  off the Internet,  and  a registered domain, and with
Larry:  the approval of one of  our four  Internet neighbors, we began
Larry:  to use Erik Fair's mkglue script, which provides for automatic
Larry:  shortcutting.

Larry:  The questions are: Are there published rules?  Has  there ever
Larry:  been  any action for this  "abuse"?  What  about  when send to
Larry:  foo.com and they are not an Internet site?  Is that  an abuse?
Larry:  How could I tell anyways?

Kent:  In    ba.news.config    article       <4440@fernwood.MPK.CA.US>
Kent:  geoff@Fernwood.MPK.CA.US (Geoff Goodfellow) writes:

Geoff:  lmb@vicom.com (Larry Blair) writes:
Larry:  The questions are: Are there published rules? 

Geoff:  Perhaps the following will  be of help.   I was present at the
Geoff:  meeting when they were approved.

Geoff:  Geoff Goodfellow

Geoff:  January 23, 1990 
		
Geoff:  			FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE			


Geoff:  FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Geoff:  Richard Mandelbaum
Geoff:  (716) 275-2916

Geoff:  San Diego,  CA,   January 9,  1990  - In  a   move towards the
Geoff:  establishment   of  a more coordinated  national research  and
Geoff:  education  network environment,  the   Federation  of American
Geoff:  Research  Networks (FARNet) has  adopted the first in a series
Geoff:  of  guidelines,   or  FARNet  Position  Papers (FPP).  The two
Geoff:  documents approved at  the just-concluded San Diego conference
Geoff:  address  the  following: FPP Development and  Approval Process
Geoff:  (FPP #1) and Guidelines on Acceptable  Use and Connection (FPP
Geoff:  #2).

Geoff:  FARNet is  an organization currently consisting of twenty-five
Geoff:  regional and state  networks,  who provide access  from  local
Geoff:  networks   to   the national  research   and education network
Geoff:  community (the Internet). The purpose of the Federation is the
Geoff:  advancement of science   and education  through  the aiding of
Geoff:  communication among research   and educational  organizations.
Geoff:  The  Federation endorses the  coordination and interconnection
Geoff:  of regional and backbone  networks to encourage  the formation
Geoff:  of a  unified  network  environment,  thus providing  enhanced
Geoff:  access  to    scientific   and  educational    resources, both
Geoff:  nationally and internationally.

Geoff:  During the past  three  years, networks serving  the  needs of
Geoff:  research,  education, and science have  experienced  explosive
Geoff:  growth.  The   growth  has  occurred  at  the campus,   local,
Geoff:  regional, national, and international  levels.   Technical and
Geoff:  financial investments by both  the public and  private sectors
Geoff:  have been  considerable.  Utilization  of these   networks has
Geoff:  become essential to  large segments of  the American  research
Geoff:  and academic communities, and continues to grow at a startling
Geoff:  rate, over   500% in the  last 18  months! Guidelines for  the
Geoff:  orderly  development and   interconnection  of   these  varied
Geoff:  facilities are essential for the integrity of the networks and
Geoff:  continued provision of  high  quality  services  to educators,
Geoff:  researchers, scholars,  and  administrators.  For this reason,
Geoff:  the FARNet  Guidelines on Acceptable   Use and Connection were
Geoff:  unanimously approved.

Geoff:  In summary, the Guidelines  govern inter-regional traffic  and
Geoff:  recommend that traffic between  the FARnet-Member  networks be
Geoff:  restricted to  research or  academic  purposes,  or to  direct
Geoff:  administrative  support   of  such  efforts.   (Intra-regional
Geoff:  traffic is governed by  the guidelines set by each  regional.)
Geoff:  The position was  adopted because the  networks represented by
Geoff:  the members   of FARNet are,  in   many instances,  at   least
Geoff:  partially funded by  grants  from state or  federal  agencies.
Geoff:  Activities  that are beyond the scope  of research or academia
Geoff:  are    not   considered   acceptable.  For   example,  Richard
Geoff:  Mandelbaum,    FARNet's   Chairperson,  summarizes   from  the
Geoff:  Guidelines, "It is not acceptable to send invoices between two
Geoff:  commercial entities on  different regional networks  across  a
Geoff:  national backbone."

Geoff:  Future  FARNet Position Papers are to  include  such issues as
Geoff:  network design  and  engineering,  international  interaction,
Geoff:  commercialization   of services,  network   management models,
Geoff:  value-added   services,  and    methods of   more   accurately
Geoff:  addressing   the information  movement  needs of  researchers,
Geoff:  scholars  and  educators.  (For  further information,  contact
Geoff:  Richard Mandelbaum (716) 275-2916 or rma@cs.rochester.edu)

Geoff:  FARnet Position Paper #2:



Geoff:  FARNET GUIDELINES ON ACCEPTABLE USE AND CONNECTION



Geoff:  1.0 Introduction

Geoff:  During the  past  three  years  national  regional  and  local
Geoff:  networks have experienced exponential growth.   The  technical
Geoff:  and  financial  commitments  made  by the  private  and public
Geoff:  sectors  have been varied   and   considerable.  Use of  these
Geoff:  networks is now considered essential by large  segments of the
Geoff:  American research and academic communities.

Geoff:  Mechanisms for  management have been ad hoc  and inconsistent.
Geoff:  Currently there are no  published guidelines nor an associated
Geoff:  method     of  adjudication  addressing  the   use of  network
Geoff:  resources.  Furthermore, inconsistencies exist among regionals
Geoff:  about what is considered  acceptable use of national networks.
Geoff:  Without effective management of the use of  the network, there
Geoff:  exists potential  for severe economic and political  problems.
Geoff:  Regional  networks    and the national   backbones  receive  a
Geoff:  considerable amount of federal funding.  This subsidy requires
Geoff:  accountability, a means to demonstrate that the  federal funds
Geoff:  are being properly applied.    Given the  strategic importance
Geoff:  that the   networks have assumed  for  national   research and
Geoff:  development, it is vital that the integrity of the resource be
Geoff:  maintained.

Geoff:  2.0 Intent

Geoff:  The  intent  of  this   document  is to  suggest  policies and
Geoff:  mechanisms for  determining appropriate use  of and connection
Geoff:  to networking resources.  The  networking environment model is
Geoff:  assumed to be a three-tiered hierarchy  consisting of a set of
Geoff:  national backbone nets (such  as NSFnet  and NSN),  campus and
Geoff:  corporate networks (such as  a campus-wide university  network
Geoff:  or a corporate site LAN)  and,  connecting  these  components,
Geoff:  mid-level networks that  offer  sites  in states or geographic
Geoff:  regions access to  national  nets.   It should  be noted  that
Geoff:  mid-level networks may in turn be made up of several layers of
Geoff:  state and regional networks.

Geoff:  This document specifically addresses traffic that is exchanged
Geoff:  among mid-level networks that  are members  of FARnet, whether
Geoff:  across a national backbone or  on a publicly subsidized direct
Geoff:  regional   connection.    It  does    not preclude  additional
Geoff:  requirements that a  national backbone might  establish.  This
Geoff:  document may also serve as a basis for acceptable use policies
Geoff:  within a mid-level network.


Geoff:  3.0 Definition of Terms

Geoff:  Appropriate use refers to whether  the  use of the network  is
Geoff:  consistent  with  the guidelines  for  each  network that  the
Geoff:  traffic traverses.  This applies both to standard applications
Geoff:  (e.g., electronic mail, file  transfers, and remote login) and
Geoff:  nonstandard  uses  (chat,   experimental    protocols,    etc)
Geoff:  Acceptable connection  refers  to   the specific authority and
Geoff:  terms  by which a user accesses  the network.  Issues that are
Geoff:  addressed here include  restrictions  on access (for  security
Geoff:  purposes),  resale of connectivity,   etc.  Acceptable use and
Geoff:  acceptable connection, while related, are separate issues.  It
Geoff:  is possible   for  acceptable  connections  to  be   used  for
Geoff:  unacceptable use, and for acceptable use to be performed on an
Geoff:  unacceptable connection.

Geoff:  4.0 Acceptable Use Policy

Geoff:  Given both the volatile nature of the  technology employed and
Geoff:  the   demand that   users   make of  the network,  determining
Geoff:  acceptable   use  is a  dynamic  and   iterative process.   In
Geoff:  evaluating whether   a particular  use  of    the  network  is
Geoff:  appropriate, several factors should be considered:


Geoff:     Traffic between mid-levels should be restricted to research
Geoff:     or  academic purposes,  or to direct administrative support
Geoff:     of such  efforts.  Organizations   whose connection to  the
Geoff:     internet is sponsored by a FRICC agency can use the network
Geoff:     in support of   the  sponsored activities.    Traffic whose
Geoff:     content is solely commercial is not  acceptable.  Malicious
Geoff:     use is   not  acceptable.  Use should   be  consistent with
Geoff:     guiding ethical  statements   and   accepted      community
Geoff:     standards.  Use of the internet in  a manner that precludes
Geoff:     or  significantly hampers the use by  others  should not be
Geoff:     allowed.

Geoff:  Each mid-level network should  establish a regional acceptable
Geoff:  use policy that  permits,  at  a minimum, the transit  of  any
Geoff:  traffic that  is acceptable to  an attached national backbone.
Geoff:  Mid-level networks may   establish additional requirements  as
Geoff:  are appropriate to the regional mission.

Geoff:  FARnet recommends that each regional accept traffic from other
Geoff:  regionals if  the use was determined  to  be  acceptable under
Geoff:  these guidelines by the originating network.

Geoff:  Decisions made by  mid-level  networks or  backbone  providers
Geoff:  regarding  specific instances of  acceptable  and unacceptable
Geoff:  use   should be widely   circulated  to encourage consistency.
Geoff:  FARnet can and will act as a  vehicle for the distribution and
Geoff:  maintenance   of    such information.  Each  mid-level network
Geoff:  should designate an individual to  participate in the exchange
Geoff:  of this information.

Geoff:  5.0 Acceptable connection

Geoff:  Mid-level networks should insure  that the connections made to
Geoff:  them are consistent with the effective use and protection of a
Geoff:  shared resource.  The mid-levels should know what networks are
Geoff:  connected and what  use   is  being   made   of  the  network.
Geoff:  Mid-level  networks  should   instruct   members   on  current
Geoff:  guidelines for acceptable use.  Access to  the internet should
Geoff:  be  protected through  the  use of  prudent security measures.
Geoff:  Unauthorized connections   to the  internet   should  not   be
Geoff:  permitted.  "Third party" connections (such as internet access
Geoff:  being  provided  by  research parks   or  through resale  by a
Geoff:  mid-level subscriber) should be done only with the approval of
Geoff:  the mid-level  networks.    Connections  which  create routing
Geoff:  patterns that are  inconsistent with  the effective and shared
Geoff:  use of the network should not be established.


Geoff:  6.0 Adjudication

Geoff:  Mid-level networks should  distribute this statement to member
Geoff:  institutions  and request members to inform  their communities
Geoff:  about these issues.

Geoff:  Responsibility for the determination of whether a proposed use
Geoff:  of the network is acceptable begins  with the initiating user.
Geoff:  If the user is uncertain, the associated  connecting authority
Geoff:  or mid-level should be contacted.

Geoff:  Mid-level networks should consult with  backbone providers and
Geoff:  FARnet as needed to determine if an intended use of a backbone
Geoff:  is consistent with the policies of  the provider.  The results
Geoff:  of these   deliberations   should be  distributed    among the
Geoff:  mid-level  networks to encourage   consistent policy.   FARnet
Geoff:  should be active in implementing this process.

Geoff:  If  disagreements arise   among mid-level networks  concerning
Geoff:  their direct  connections, FARnet should attempt  to act as  a
Geoff:  reconciliatory agent.

Geoff:  7.0 Enforcement

Geoff:  In instances  where particular traffic is  determined to be an
Geoff:  abuse, the mid-level network that originated the  traffic will
Geoff:  be held  responsible for both  admonishing the perpetrator and
Geoff:  preventing further abuse.  It is  assumed  that the  mid-level
Geoff:  network will, in turn, place similar responsibilities upon its
Geoff:  members.

Geoff:  Mid-level networks should make  a good faith effort to enforce
Geoff:  the  decisions  that   emerge   from the adjudication  process
Geoff:  undertaken by FARnet.

Kent:  In   ba.news.config  article <1990Feb11.225848.23276@vicom.com>
Kent:  lmb@vicom.com (Larry Blair) writes:

Kent:  [Some previously included stuff omitted; there  was quite a bit
Kent:  of it]

Larry:  Are these in any way binding?  If I read these correctly, most
Larry:  of the .COM domain does  not qualify.   The MX system for uucp
Larry:  .COM sites would have to be eliminated or severly restricted.

Larry:  The Internet has evolved over  the  years.  While  it may have
Larry:  started  as a DARPA  project to link  universities and defense
Larry:  contractors,  it  now provides the  communication backbone for
Larry:  hundreds of thousands of  machines throughout the  world, most
Larry:  of which   have nothing to  do   with research, education,  or
Larry:  defense  work.  If  I'm reading the guidelines  correctly, the
Larry:  majority of  the "trash" on  netnews  would  not qualify.  One
Larry:  .COM could not talk  to another, even if  both are directly on
Larry:  the Internet, unless the communication satisfied a very narrow
Larry:  range of allowable topics.

Larry:  Does FARNet really  run  the second level interconnect?  Could
Larry:  this spell a return  to the  USENET of several years ago, with
Larry:  two day  delivery times?  Are  they going  to kick all  of the
Larry:  .COM sites  off the Internet?  Or just   resrict them to their
Larry:  regional net?

Kent:  I don't think a single one of  the many (>40) newsgroups I read
Kent:  from  USENet could be copied  across  to the Internet under the
Kent:  listed rules.  In fact, most traffic  of _all_ groups I've ever
Kent:  read (used  to be more  than  130) would  probably not qualify.
Kent:  Even in  such staid groups as  sci.math,  most of the  postings
Kent:  would  be  lucky to qualify as  "recreational"  in nature, vice
Kent:  "arrant nonsense"  for the plurality of  the rest.  The essence
Kent:  of communication pathways normal humans are willing to tolerate
Kent:  includes concepts such  as "fun", "anger", "errors", "insults",
Kent:  "blundering around  lost", and  "misunderstandings".   If "you"
Kent:  try to  force the signal to noise  ratio too high  (> 10%, on a
Kent:  guess)  most of the signal will  go away in  search of   a more
Kent:  forgiving communications channel.

Kent:  I'd guess the posted rules were not written  by people  who are
Kent:  daily  _contributing_  participants  in any  widely distributed
Kent:  net, or they'd have better sense.

--
Again, my opinions, not the account furnishers'.

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csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (02/13/90)

There is nothing new here. It has long been known by Usenet/Internet old hands
that USENET crosses over the line of what types of traffic are supposed to be
passed over the research Internets. The same was and is true of many of the
Internet mailing lists, many of which now use Netnews and NNTP as a transport
protocol.

Back when NNTP was brand new (three, four years ago?), there was a lot of
concern about this. It was generally accepted that some day, in the indefinite
future, USENET would lose its privilege of running across the research Inter-
nets, perhaps very soon. Not only hasn't that happened, but if anything USENET
is more accepted now than then. There was a lot of concern that DARPA, CSNet,
and other "officials" allowed USENET traffic simply because they didn't know
what it was. When we were considering joining CSNet, I asked them about USENET
traffic. They understood exactly what I meant, and had no objections at all.

For the paranoid types, the solution is commercial internets, instead of re-
search. Nysernet is offering a commercial IP network around New York, and the
UUNet AlterNet service is now coming on line. Expect others in the future.

[Followups directed to news.admin, where they belong. News.groups is not read
by news administrators.]

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