chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (03/02/90)
There are no new issues to discuss (yay!). All surveys will run until
March 5, and I expect to have the ballot for the call for votes ready
for submission by March 10, so please, if you have feedback, get it to
me sooner rather than later.
Survey results for c.s.m.virus have changed from the last status report.
If current voting holds, it will be put on the ballot as moderated.
Early survey responses are 3 to 2 in favor of doing away with the c.s.m.apps
sub-hierarchy. It's hard to get a real definitive feel with so few votes,
but I'm leaning towards doing away with it at this time and making all
groups subsidiary to c.s.m instead of c.s.m.apps. that affects various
places in the proposal (c.s.m.apps.misc, c.s.m.apps.hypercard, et al). I'd
like more feedback on this issue before closing the survey.
Surveys under way: please make sure that you send in your responses by
March 5 if you want them counted.
(1) Please send me e-mail with your preferred name for what is currently
comp.sys.mac.os. Rank the following by preference:
c.s.m.os
c.s.m.sysf
c.s.m.sysfold
c.s.m.system
If you feel that a name is not appropriate, rank it with 'NA'. If you
have no preferences, don't rank the work. Here's how I'll count this:
the name ranked 1 will get 5 points, 2nd three, third two and fourth 1.
Names not mentioned (no preference) will get zero. Names marked 'NA'
will get minus 2 (-2). Example: a person wants sysf or system, doesn't
care about os and hates sysfold. His vote would be:
(1) sysf
(2) system
(NA) sysfold
I'll use the name with the largest point total at the end. One vote per
person, and the survey will continue until March 1.
(2) Please send me e-mail on the appropriate name for c.s.m.wanted. Rank
the following by preference:
c.s.m.wanted
c.s.m.help
c.s.m.request
same rules as the c.s.m.os survey apply.
(3) Whether c.s.m.virus should be moderated or unmoderated.
(4) Should we create a comp.sys.mac.apps sub-hierarchy, or should we place
things subsidiary to comp.sys.mac?
(either c.s.m.apps.games, c.s.m.apps.misc, c.s.m.apps.comm for the
former, or c.s.m.misc, c.s.m.games, c.s.m.comm for the latter)
please vote 'apps' or 'no apps'.
Survey status:
Final name of c.s.m.os. [[survey ends March 5.]]
110 c.s.m.system
73 c.s.m.os
4 c.s.m.sysfold
-22 c.s.m.sysf
Final name of c.s.m.wanted. [[survey ends March 5.]]
86 c.s.m.wanted
69 c.s.m.request
15 c.s.m.help
10 c.s.m.questions [write-in]
Whether comp.sys.mac.virus should be moderated or unmoderated.
[[survey ends March 5.]]
22 moderated
10 unmoderated
Whether there should be a comp.sys.mac.apps hierarchy. [[survey ends March 5.]]
2 comp.sys.mac.apps
3 no comp.sys.mac.apps
Whether or not to allow variation from the guidelines for the 'multiple
votes in a single proposal' for the reorganization: Yes, 172, no, 2.
[[proposal considered passed]]
Whether to use comp.sys.mac.apps or comp.sys.mac.appl: apps 22, appl 10.
[[recommendation 'apps']]
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new changes to text of proposal.
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proposed text of call for votes proposal. (hint: you don't need to read this
unless you haven't seen it before or want to check on changes noted changes)
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Please vote on each proposal separately. You may vote 'yes', 'no' or
'abstain/no preference' (or whatever terms you want for these as long as
they're non-ambiguous),
Proposal 1: rename comp.sys.mac to comp.sys.mac.misc. This will be in
multiple stages: the creation of comp.sys.mac.misc, followed a few
weeks later by the rmgroup of comp.sys.mac and the addition of a usenet
alias to the new group to forward misdirected messages. This will bring
c.s.m into the same standardized naming as other hierarchies, and it
should also discourage some of the cross-posting between c.s.m and
sub-groups that happens when people think they should put it in the
parent group just in case.
Proposal 2: Creation of comp.sys.mac.os. This will be for discussion of
Macintosh system software -- the system, finder, multifinder, CDEVs, INITs
and other Apple and third party Operating System software and its
extensions.
Proposal 3: Creation of comp.sys.mac.apps.misc. This will be for
discussion of Macintosh applications. It is designed as the beginning of a
sub-hierarchy of groups, hence the creation of c.s.m.a.misc instead of
c.s.m.apps.
Proposal 4: renaming comp.sys.mac.hypercard to comp.sys.mac.apps.hypercard.
To standardize naming in the new scheme.
Proposal 5: creation of comp.sys.mac.wanted. A place for the "I'm missing
part five of..." or "I need a program that does..." or "Where can I get a
good price on..." messages. There was some discussion of creating a sister
group c.s.m.forsale, but for sale messages really should be encouraged to go
into a regional group and not a net-wide group.
Proposal 6: Creation of group comp.sys.mac.apps.games. A group for the
discussion of macintosh-based computer games.
Proposal 7: Creation of group comp.sys.mac.apps.comm. A group for the
discussion of telecommunication and networking software and programs: Red
Ryder, Microphone, Appleshare, etc.
Proposal 8: Creation of group comp.sys.mac.virus. For discussion of
macintosh viruses, reports, prevention and etc.
Proposal 9: Creation of group comp.sys.mac.announce, to be created
moderated. Moderator to be appointed at some future time. Designed to be a
low-volume, high-content group for distribution of information, regular
postings (like the "where to find...", and "introduction to comp.sys.mac"
documents, postings like virus alerts and other forms of information
(product announcements? press releases?) to be determined.
No changes: comp.sys.mac.programmer, comp.sys.mac.digest, comp.sys.mac.hardware
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