hansen@pegasus.ATT.COM (Tony L. Hansen) (06/05/90)
The following is a complete list of all votes for and against. There were 168 votes for and 7 votes against. The voting took place in April. By all of the current rules, this means that there is now a New Group, comp.std.c++! The charter of comp.std.c++ is similar to that of comp.std.c. There is now a standardization effort going on for C++. This unmoderated newsgroup will be used for discussion of the "official" language specs, the ANSI standardization of C++, and library standardization. The byline for the newsgroup will be comp.std.c++ Discussion about C++ language,library standards. The votes for: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu rjc@CS.UCLA.EDU (Robert Collins) mikeb@coho.ee.ubc.ca (Mike Bolotski) gl8f@astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) beard@ux1.lbl.gov (Patrick C Beard) ej@acm.Princeton.EDU Mark Nagel <nagel@ics.UCI.EDU> Heribert Roth <roth@gmdzi.uucp> dl@g.oswego.edu (Doug Lea) stripes@mordor.eng.umd.edu (Joshua Osborne) beecher@granite.cr.bull.com charis!mjy (Michael J. Young) rja7m@helga1.acc.Virginia.EDU (rja7m), randall@virginia.edu strange@attunix.att.com (Philip E Brown) bbadger@x102c.ess.harris.com (Badger BA 64810) lijewski@tcgould.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Mike Lijewski) peter@Think.COM tmb@ai.mit.edu (Thomas M. Breuel) rpp386.Cactus.ORG!jfh@cs.utexas.edu (John F. Haugh II) rwhitby@adl.austek.oz.au (Rod Whitby) roger@XN.LL.MIT.EDU (Roger Hale) reb@Solbourne.COM (Roy Binz) wlp@calmasd.Prime.COM (Walter Peterson) meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner) Paul.Blattner%midas.wr.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET rk@pws.bull.com halley!dino!kelley@cs.utexas.edu (Mike Kelley) linimon@nominil.UUCP (Mark Linimon) awy@mvuxr.att.com (Andre W Yoshida) jfw%rome.wpd@sgi.com (john fergus wilkinson) matt@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Crawford) andyj@osf.org (Andy Johnson) The Polar Bear <skh@hpclskh.hp.com> Daniel Edelson <daniel@mizar.ucsc.edu> landauer@Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) Guy Middleton <gamiddleton@watmath.waterloo.edu> Russ Tuck <tuck@cs.unc.edu> blodgett@granite.cr.bull.com linus!dxb%genrad.com (Daniel A. Burkhard) alycef@rdrc.rpi.edu William P. Setzer <setzer@wam.umd.edu> acbhour@cc.ruu.nl (Rudi van Houten) Paul E. McKenney <mckenney@itstd.sri.com> Shankar Unni <shankar@hpclscu.hp.com> Mark A Rust <markr%tekig5.pen.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET> Walter Maner<maner@andy.bgsu.edu> jamesh@cs.umr.edu dsouza%cadillac.cad.mcc.com@mcc.com (Desmond Dsouza) Marshall Cline <cline@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu> mclay@cme.nist.gov (Michael Mclay) ames!coherent.com!bjoyce (Bob Joyce) ronen@csvax.caltech.edu (Ronen Barzel) M. Zanzinger <zanzinge@immd2.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> rfg@esp.ICS.UCI.EDU daloera@ATHENA.MIT.EDU John Vasta <vasta@apollo.com> sandra%spex.nl@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Sandra Swagten) fjv@otc.otca.oz.au lwj@cs.kun.nl (Luc Rooijakkers) p.richardson@trl.oz.au (Peter Richardson - NSSS) pantor!richard@uunet.UU.NET (Richard Sargent) Per Abrahamsen <amanda@iesd.auc.dk> Mikael Pettersson <mpe@IDA.LiU.SE> Thomas Maslen <maslen@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Stephen K Mulrine <smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK> eriko@idt.unit.no (Erik Odberg) Dag Bruck <dag@control.lth.se> Simon Gibbs <simon@cui.UNIGE.SWITCH.ch> leendert@cwi.nl (Leendert van Doorn) Menno Jonkers <mvjonke@cs.vu.nl> niklas@appli.se (Niklas Hallqvist) newton@cme.nist.gov (Eric Newton) jjilg@cs.tamu.edu (Jeffrey M Jilg) tiemann@Sun.COM (Michael Tiemann) newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) Hank Shiffman <shiffman@Sun.COM> schmidt@PARIS.ICS.UCI.EDU (Doug Schmidt) Charleen Bunjiovianna <charleen@ads.com> baur@venice.sedd.trw.com (Steven L. Baur) Barry_Floyd@mts.rpi.edu spencer@dssmv0.mpr.ca ( Reid Spencer) Rich Salz <rsalz@bbn.com> Mike Elliot <mike@unix.cis.pitt.edu> reid@cpswh.cps.msu.edu (Dr Richard J. Reid) Claude Villermain <viller@capsogeti.fr> decuac!necssd!harrison (Mark Harrison) reggie@pdn.paradyne.com (George Leach) <marti@inf.ethz.ch> sun!hsfmsh!mhyman (Marco S. Hyman) iex.iex.com!ewl%jupiter (Bill Leggett) Scott Glasser <glasser@DG-RTP.DG.COM> tct!chip@uunet.UU.NET (Chip Salzenberg) linus!charlie%genrad.com (Charlie D. Havener) news%oresoft@uunet.UU.NET (Daniel "Paperboy" Elbaum) Byron Jenings <jenings@hpfcbtj.sde.hp.com> fialli@samsung.com (Joe Fialli) Bill Sommerfeld <wesommer@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> Carsten Bormann <cabo%TUB.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu> Christopher-Vance@adfa.oz.au (Christopher JS Vance) cag@cadnetix.COM (Christopher Gantz) marc@dumbcat.UUCP (Marco S Hyman) sco!seanf@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (Sean) wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem_Jan_Withagen) Mark L Langley <langley@DG-RTP.DG.COM> Rein Tollevik <rein@ifi.uio.no> brad@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Brad Appleton) rfm@Sun.COM (Rich McAllister) I-Chen.Wu@SAM.CS.CMU.EDU oconnor!boris!mfy@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Yaz) Dan Christensen <danch%vedge.UUCP@Larry.McRCIM.McGill.EDU> bjornmu@idt.unit.no (Bj|rn Munch) Rob Sartin <sartin@hplcip.hpl.hp.com> jgk@osc.osc.COM (Joe Keane) utah-cs!caeco!i-core!lzirkel (Louis Zirkel III) magpie.grp@unify.uucp (Greg Pasquariello) mike@cside1.UUCP (Mike Morris) Psychocyclist <mark@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> tombre@loria.crin.fr (Karl Tombre) James Clark <jclark!jjc@relay.EU.net> Bryan Boreham <kewill!bryan@relay.EU.net> schuh@cs.wisc.edu (Dan Schuh) anders@penguin.verity.com (Anders Wallgren x7652) microsoft!ilanc@beaver.cs.washington.edu amara!des@sharkey.cc.umich.edu (Dave Steinhoff) harris@basil-rathbone.mit.edu (Bob Harris) John Hassey <hassey@DG-RTP.DG.COM> twk@cadence.com (Tom Kronmiller) xanadu!roger@uunet.UU.NET (Roger Gregory) Daniel Pezely <pezely@cis.udel.edu> Eamonn McManus <emcmanus@cs.tcd.ie> taichi!rwd@bellcore.bellcore.com gsanchez@dit.upm.es (Gabriel Sanchez Gutierrez) Ronald S H Khoo <ronald@robobar.co.uk> bear@unilog.se (Bjorn Sjoholm) Gary Bridgewater <gary%proa.sv.dg.com@RELAY.CS.NET> Jim Davis <davis@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> jolliffe@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca (Bruce Jolliffe) Lee Sanders <sanders@DG-RTP.DG.COM> decuac!puck!asp (Andy Puchrik) Lucio de Re <ddsw1!proxima!lucio> Alvin Pivowar <alvinp%tekig5.pen.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET> GLELLA@vms.eurokom.ie (Benedetto Serra, bserra@sarin.it) Joseph Nave <jan@root.co.uk> marc@siegfried.vlsi.polymtl.ca (Marc Paquette) Kenneth.Lundin@eua.ericsson.se John Keegan <john@rtxirl.ie> Graham Boddy <gboddy%research6.computer-science.manchester.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK> sloane@parcplace.com (Alan Sloane) Tom Rombouts <tomr@ashtate.A-T.COM> michael%computer-science.manchester.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK (Michael Fisher) Mark Rafter <rafter%cs.warwick.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK> vinoski@apollo.com (Stephen Vinoski) glenn@synaptics.com (Glenn Gribble) Luen Tor Andrew LIN <llin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> Juha.Koivisto@tel.vtt.fi (Juha Koivisto) "David N. Schlesinger" <lefty@TWG.COM> robin%spec0.electrical-engineering.manchester.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK Karl Koenig <koenig@ta.olivetti.com> niti@zeus.csc.ti.com (niti) shadow@ti-csl.csc.ti.com (Mark) joseph@mirage.csc.ti.com lls@Eng.Sun.COM (Lynn Snyder) munnari!allgfx.agi.oz.au!shn@uunet.UU.NET (Si-Hanh Nguyen) steele@ni.csc.ti.com (Jeri Steele) araja@m2.csc.ti.com (Basalat Ali Raja) jvdgoor@mswe.decnet.philips.be (J.G.M. van den Goor) ti-csl!dsk51!ti-csl!dsk51!tjt (Tom Traughber) CRAIG HANSEN-STURM///DECWEST COMPILER DEVELOPMENT 27-Apr-1990 1307 <hansen@decwet.enet.dec.com> The votes against: amdcad!cdr (Carl Rigney) pauld@vast.eecs.unsw.oz.au metaphor!flamingo.metaphor.com!broughtn@decwrl.dec.com (Justin Broughton) maxsmith@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Mitchell Wyle <wyle@inf.ETHZ.SWITCH.ch> farcomp!andrewjp@apple.com (Andrew Peterson) pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk -- Tony Hansen att!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony hansen@pegasus.att.com
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (06/08/90)
In article <4815@pegasus.ATT.COM> hansen@pegasus3.ATT.COM (Tony L. Hansen) writes: | The following is a complete list of all votes for and against. There were | 168 votes for and 7 votes against. The voting took place in April. By all of | the current rules, this means that there is now a New Group, comp.std.c++! One question, why did it take six weeks to post the results? Not that I challenge them, one of the yes votes is mine, but this is a l-o-n-g delay. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot) (06/09/90)
Your vote did not follow the guidelines. It's been more than two months since you started your vote. In your call for votes you said that the vote would run through the end of APRIL, not May. -- Eliot Lear [lear@turbo.bio.net]
hansen@pegasus.ATT.COM (Tony L. Hansen) (06/11/90)
< Bill Davidsen writes: < One question, why did it take six weeks to post the results? Not that I < challenge them, one of the yes votes is mine, but this is a l-o-n-g delay. < Eliot Lear writes: < Your vote did not follow the guidelines. < It's been more than two months since you started your vote. In your call < for votes you said that the vote would run through the end of APRIL, not < May. All of the guidelines were indeed followed. The vote did indeed run only through the end of April. The last tabulated vote came in on April 27. Note that the guidelines do not say that the tabulation and acknowledgement has to come out immediately. So, yes, the guidelines were indeed followed. You know how work has to take precedence over fun sometimes? :-( The reason for the delay was that I got sidetracked by a project at work which took up all of my free time. Such is life. Tony Hansen att!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony hansen@pegasus.att.com
lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot) (06/12/90)
You're wrong. See ``The Result'' in the guidelines. Just in case you don't have a copy, here is the relevant section: >> The Result >> >> 1) At the completion of the 21 day voting period, the vote taker must post >> the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the >> votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or >> mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The comp.std.c++ vote did not follow the guidelines. In any case, this does not necessarily mean that the group should simply be forgotten. It does, however, mean that I will note it as fact when I approve postings to news.announce.newgroups and let the community decide whether or not it bothers them. -- Eliot Lear [lear@turbo.bio.net]