kjones@talos.pm.com (Kyle Jones) (06/27/90)
This is the first call for votes for a new unmoderated newsgroup, news.software.c, which will host discussion of the "C news" news transport system. Bug reports, patches (official and unofficial), and general Q&A will all be welcome in this new group. Send votes to kjones@talos.pm.com. If that address fails, use kyle@cs.odu.edu as an alternate. State clearly whether you are in favor of or against the creation of the new group. The voting period ends 12am, Sunday, 22 July 1990.
brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) (06/27/90)
Are Henry and Geoff still opposed to the creation of a group to discuss their news software? - Brian
lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot) (06/28/90)
In article <1990Jun27.131235.28472@talos.pm.com> kjones@talos.pm.com (Kyle Jones) writes: > This is the first call for votes for a new unmoderated newsgroup, > news.software.c, which will host discussion of the "C news" news > transport system. It is not. No call for discussion nor call for votes was ever posted to news.announce.newgroups. If you are going to follow the guidelines at all, then follow them. Otherwise, don't waste everybody's time with a vote. Just create the damn group. -- Eliot Lear [lear@turbo.bio.net]
kjones@talos.pm.com (Kyle Jones) (06/28/90)
Kyle Jones writes: > This is the first call for votes for a new unmoderated newsgroup, > news.software.c [...] Eliot Lear responds: > It is not. No call for discussion nor call for votes was ever posted > to news.announce.newgroups. If you are going to follow the guidelines > at all, then follow them. Otherwise, don't waste everybody's time > with a vote. Just create the damn group. On June 12 the call for discussion for news.software.c was sent to news-announce-newgroups@uunet.uu.net, and was posted separately to the newsgroups news.admin, news.software.b, and news.groups at that time. After the article failed to appear in news.announce.newgroups for several days, I resent the article to the moderator on June 18. On June 19, the call for discussion appeared in news.announce.newgroups here. This reconstruction of events is not just from memory; I have dated copies of all the messages in question. So, Eliot, are you saying that the following article was a forgery? If any admins out there have a sufficiently long expire time for news.announce.newgroups, please verify the existence of the attached article <9006121457.AA15196-x@talos.pm.com> on your system. Failing that, check for the message-ID in your history file. kyle jones <kjones@talos.pm.com> ...!uunet!talos!kjones ------------- Article 482 of news.announce.newgroups: Path: talos!xanth!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!bionet!turbo.bio.net!lear From: kjones@talos.pm.com (Kyle Jones) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: call for discussion: news.software.c Message-ID: <9006121457.AA15196-x@talos.pm.com> Date: 18 Jun 90 07:11:40 GMT Sender: lear@turbo.bio.net Followup-To: news.groups Lines: 4 Approved: lear@turbo.bio.net This is a proposal for a new unmoderated newsgroup, news.software.c, which will host discussion of the "C news" news transport system. Bug reports, patches (official and unofficial), and general Q&A will all be welcome in this new group.
rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (06/29/90)
I voted no, and I encourage others to do so also. The name is misleading -- "Oh great, this is where I can ask the Usenet news groups about my C program" The existing traffic is low. Many of the problems are compatibility issues Both systems benefit from cross-fertilization Others people have also made these points. -- Please send comp.sources.unix-related mail to rsalz@uunet.uu.net. Use a domain-based address or give alternate paths, or you may lose out.