evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (12/11/90)
In June, I started a CfD for a number of newsgroups relating to applications software. This came as an outgrowth of the (unsuccessful) attempts at starting comp.unix.sco. At that time, the point was aptly made that the existing hierarchy does not deal well with questions about word processors, spreadsheets, office automation products such as Uniplex, or industry-specific verticals. The original CfD brought up some points which I'll address, but the whole proposal was put on hold to reduce the noise during the comp.unix re-organization. With that resolved(almost :-) and new questions arising about WordPerfect and Usenet, perhaps it's time to bring the issue up again, for eventual resolution by vote. What I'm proposing is a new hierarchy, comp.applications.*. The original proposal, comp.apps, has been denounced as repugnant by a number of people who don't like abbreviations when full words are possible. Me, I don't care enough to put up a fight over this issue. The original proposal also called for no less than eight new groups under this hierarchy. This time I'll be more modest -- start with fewer groups, but allow for room to grow if other subjects start dominating the .misc group. Here's what I propose this time (all unmoderated): comp.applications.spreadsheet Spreadsheets comp.applications.wordpro Word processors (as opposed to text formatters) comp.applications.vertical Industry-specific (ie, accounting) comp.applications.office Integrated office automation tools comp.applications.misc Anything that doesn't fit elsewhere An issue was raised in the original discussion that the hierarchy should be comp.unix.applications instead of comp.applications. My objection to this is twofold; - There is enough crossover of applications across platforms that it seems more reasonable to separate applications by purpose rather than by environment; - There hasn't been enough traffic in this field yet to justify multiple comp.[os].application.* hierarchies, which would certainly follow this precedent. I know I can't please everyone. But if there appears to be consensus that this is a good idea, I'll eventually turn this into a Call for Votes. Comments, private or public, are welcome. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!attcan!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504 Keep an open mind -- you'll never know what might fall in.
robertj@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Robert Jaquiss) (12/12/90)
I aggree that a new hierarchy is needed. I am inclined to think that splitting the group by platform may come sooner that later. There are already groups for desktop publiching, tex, editors and I haven't explored the Mac stuff. While we are at it; who not break up comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware? Robert S. Jaquiss Jr. Internet: robertj@tekgen.bv.tek.com