laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) (12/15/90)
The voting to replace comp.unix.internals has ended, with the result,
according to the Call for Votes, for replacing comp.unix.internals with
comp.unix.wizards.
While I thought I had tried everything to drum up the vote, no notice was
ever posted to the still-active comp.unix.wizards. One of the very last
voters noted this and said he hardly ever looks at comp.unix.internals.
The Call For Votes was apparently garbled at some sites, although it got
here in one piece eventually. I did mail it out to a few voters at the
beginning. Still, in order to avoid possible later confusion, I broke
down and sent out 285 or so acknowledgements indicating how each vote
might be used. I got a handful of responses asking to switch the choice
to one "only" or the other, or to switch it out of an "only" bucket. Of
the fifteen or so bounced acknowledgements, most were quick to send their
own duplicate votes labeled as such.
The voting tallies for the respective categories were:
comp.unix.esoterica 61
comp.unix.esoterica only 16
comp.unix.internals 61
comp.unix.wizards 144
comp.unix.wizards only 19
Two tallies were to be met in order to replace comp.unix.internals. First,
at least two-thirds of the voters (with a 100-vote margin) must indicate a
preference for a new name over comp.unix.internals. Second, at least two-
thirds of the votes for the proposed names must be for the name indicated
by the first test. A voter expressed a desire to select only one name in
the first stage, where the `esoterica only' or `wizards only' choice meant
"I would rather have internals than the other name". The votes bore out
our general agreement to replace internals with only moderate disagreement
over the new name. Many comments indicated a preference for the name voted
for, and a willingness to accept the other.
The tally of votes for comp.unix.internals against comp.unix.esoterica was
61+19=80 to 61+16+144=221
The tally of votes for comp.unix.internals against comp.unix.wizards was
61+16=77 to 61+144+19=224
so the criteria for replacing the internals group are met either way.
The choice of the new name (comp.unix.esoterica or comp.unix.wizards) ran
61+16=77 to 144+19=163
As the name comp.unix.wizards received more than twice as many votes as
the name comp.unix.esoterica, the vote passed for comp.unix.wizards. I
will, then, send out a rmgroup message for comp.unix.internals in five
days, together with a newgroup for comp.unix.wizards and a request to
alias comp.unix.internals to comp.unix.wizards.
I personally think that our least confusing option is to put the old name
back in place - otherwise we might end up with so many variations of the
name that we might as well be dancing the tarantella.
The voters' mail addresses and choices follow. I attempted to weed out
duplicates based on user name or site!uid; since I received a few apparent
duplicates too late for acknowledgement, I have indicated them by including
both mailboxes from the respective From: lines; I also put two optional
addresses there when someone's mailer indicated "uunet!uid" as a very bogus
return address, according to uunet!MAILER-DEMON.
CC.MsState.Edu!fwp1 esoterica
MJA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU!mja esoterica
aerospace.aero.org!strauss wizards
bellcore.bellcore.com!navaho!tji esoterica only
cbnewsi.att.com!npl wizards
cc.imperial.ac.uk!adh wizards
cs.utexas.edu!lobster!siswat!buck wizards
ctbilbo!ray wizards
cup.portal.com!Link_-_APO wizards
ks25!mark wizards
parc.xerox.com!janssen wizards
twitch!tjt wizards
ukfca1.uk.ate.slb.com!ams esoterica
uunet!t.l.hansen,att!pegasus!hansen wizards
aspect!kevinc internals
+-----------------------------------------+-----------------+ spike.bellcore.com!jcl internals
--Robert westford.ccur.com!rtc wizards
Adam Bryant cs.bu.edu!adb esoterica
Adam J. Richter ibmpa!adamj wizards
Admin bram.com!root wizards
Alan Ballard ucs.ubc.ca!ballard esoterica
Alan Strassberg oetl1.SCF.LOCKHEED.COM!alan wizards
Alexander Dupuy hudson.cs.columbia.edu!dupuy esoterica
Amir Plivatsky CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!amir wizards only
Andy Malis BBN.COM!malis wizards
Andy Richter vuse.vanderbilt.edu!war wizards
Anton Rang nexus.cs.wisc.edu!rang internals
Arnold Robbins audfax!arnold wizards
Arnold Robbins audiofax.com!arnold wizards only
Art Nicolaysen wciu.edu!art esoterica
BRC system administration sparc0.brc.uconn.edu!sysadmin wizards
Barry Shein world.std.com!bzs wizards
Ben Taylor lccinc!bent wizards
Bengt Larsson maths.lth.se!bengtl internals
Bernie Simon stsci.edu!bsimon esoterica
Bill Carpenter hos1cad!wjc wizards
Bill Phillips contex!bill wizards
Bill Vermillion bilver!bill wizards
Bill White well!wjwhite esoterica
Bjorn Engsig oracle.nl!bengsig wizards
Bj|rn Larsen usit.uio.no!blarsen wizards
Blair P. Houghton cmdnfs.intel.com!bhoughto wizards only
Bob Devine 26-Oct-1990 1510 cookie.enet.dec.com!devine wizards
Bob Manson cis.ohio-state.edu!manson esoterica only
Brendan Kehoe cs.widener.edu!brendan wizards
Brian Matthews sumax.seattleu.edu!polari!6sceng!blm wizards
Brian Rice mirage.rtp.dg.com!rice esoterica
Bruce Adler segue.com!bruce internals
Bryan Cardoza bubba.npd.novell.com!bcardoza internals
Cesar A Quiroz cs.rochester.edu!quiroz wizards
Charles Carvalho salt.acc.com!charles esoterica
Charles Shub mumm.Colorado.EDU!cdash wizards only
Charlie Geyer galton.uchicago.edu!geyer wizards
Chip Rosenthal chinacat.unicom.com!chip wizards
Chip Salzenberg tct!chip esoterica only
Chris Jones ksr.com!clj esoterica only
Chris Metcalf masala.LCS.MIT.EDU!metcalf wizards
Christian A Ratliff rpi.edu!caleman internals
Christopher J. Calabrese ulysses.att.com!cjc wizards
Clive Feather x.co.uk!clive esoterica only
Craig E. Ward venera.isi.edu!cew wizards
Craig Harmer veritas.com!craig wizards only
Curtis Yarvin cs.brown.edu!cgy esoterica
Dale Farnsworth asuvax.eas.asu.edu!mcdphx!df wizards
Dan Schlitt sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dan wizards only
Dan Veditz ashtate.A-T.COM!dveditz esoterica
Darcy L. Bowen symmetry!bowend wizards
Dave Armbrust pcssc!dma wizards only
Dave Cline m1.88OPEN.ORG!dave internals
Dave Gagne uunet.uu.net!ubc-cs!fs1.ee.ubc.ca!daveg wizards
Dave Gillett pa.reuter.com!dgil internals
Dave Hitz auspex!hitz wizards only
Dave Yearke acsu.buffalo.edu!planck!yearke wizards
David C Lawrence turing.cs.rpi.edu!tale internals
David Canzi watserv1!dmcanzi,watserv1.uwaterloo.ca!dmcanzi esoterica
David Edelsohn nova.npac.syr.edu!edelsohn internals
David H. Brierley Galaxia.Newport.RI.US!dave internals
David Hayes postoffice.smu.edu!merlin esoterica only
David Lamb qucis.queensu.ca!dalamb internals
David Lesher mthvax.cs.miami.edu!wb8foz esoterica
David Robinson elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!david wizards only
David Schmidt os-d.isc-br.com!davids internals
David Svoboda void!svoboda wizards
David Wright stl.stc.co.uk!D.W.Wright wizards only
Dennis Gentry june.cs.washington.edu!dennis wizards
Dewey Henize execu.com!dewey internals
Dick Dunn ico.isc.com!rcd wizards
Don Lewis mlb.semi.harris.com!del esoterica
Duncan Sinclair cs.glasgow.ac.uk!sinclair wizards
Ed Anselmo CS.YALE.EDU!anselmo-ed wizards
Ed Hall rand.org!edhall esoterica only
Ed Hew xenitec.on.ca!edhew wizards
Edward Screven us.oracle.com!escreven wizards
Edward Vielmetti math.lsa.umich.edu!emv internals
Eric Gisin mks!eric wizards
Eric Peterson encore.encore.com!houligan!epeterso esoterica only
Eugene N. Miya wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene internals
Florestan || Eusebius genetics.washington.edu!nlkosuk internals
Frank D. Cringle materna!fdc internals
Frank Korzeniewski apple.com!well!series wizards
Frank Mayhar hermes.ladc.bull.com!fmayhar wizards
Gary Bridgewater proa.sv.dg.com!gary internals
Gary Heston (sci34hub!gary) sci34hub.sci.com!gary internals
George V. Reilly cs.brown.edu!gvr wizards
Gil Kloepfer Jr. limbic.ssdl.com!gil wizards
Gil Pilz@Eng@Banyan banyan.banyan.com!gil esoterica
Gordon Baldwin sunup.West.Sun.COM!unix20!sherpa2!gbaldwin internals
Greg A. Woods eci386!woods esoterica
Greg Lindahl astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f wizards
Gregory G. Woodbury mcnc.org!wolves.uucp!ggw wizards
Gregory M. Paris rayssd.ssd.ray.com!gmp wizards
Gutorm Thomas Hogasen ifi.uio.no!gutorm wizards
H.W. Henry Troup BNR.CA!HWT wizards
Havard Eidnes spurv.runit.sintef.no!he esoterica
Heiko Blume scuzzy.in-berlin.de!src wizards
Hugentobler Alain divsun.unige.ch!alain wizards
Hugh M Moore sixhub.crd.ge.com!hughM esoterica
Ian Kluft uts.amdahl.com!ikluft internals
Ian Sergeant saleven.saleven.oz.au!ians internals
Ilham ATHENA.MIT.EDU!ilham wizards
Irving Wolfe happym.wa.com!irv internals
J.R.Suckling crdec7.apgea.army.mil!bobs wizards only
James Seidman hsv3!jls internals
James Warner Adams ucunix.san.uc.EDU!adams wizards
James da Silva mimsy!jds esoterica
Jay Laefer andrew.cmu.edu!jl57+ internals
Jay Maynard thesis1.hsch.utexas.edu!jmaynard internals
Jay Plett silence.princeton.nj.us!jay wizards
Jean Marie Diaz colorful.ora.com!ambar esoterica
Jeff Aldrich sunrise.Stanford.EDU!aldrich internals
Jeff Makey Logicon.COM!jeff wizards
Jeff Wallace scam.Berkeley.EDU!jeffw wizards
Jeff Wandling unicorn.cc.wwu.edu!n8743196 esoterica
Jerry Aguirre olivey.ATC.Olivetti.Com!jerry wizards
Jesse W. Asher dynasys!jessea internals
Jim Burns prism.gatech.edu!jb107,prism!jb107 wizards
Jim Reeds research.att.com!reeds wizards
Jim Waters Neon.Stanford.EDU!waters wizards
Jo Are Rosland sdata.no!joare esoterica
Joe Broniszewski astph!joe internals
Joe Brownlee cblph.att.com!jbr esoterica
Joe Saladino uunet.UU.NET!vrdxhq!bram!joe wizards
Joe Smith tardis.Tymnet.COM!jms esoterica only
Joel B. Levin BBN.COM!levin wizards
John Allen ncis.tis.llnl.gov!jallen wizards
John F. Haugh II rpp386.cactus.org!jfh wizards only
John F. Woods ksr.com!jfw wizards
John G. DeArmond mathcs.emory.edu!jgd wizards only
John G. Myers FED.EXPRES.CS.CMU.EDU!jgm esoterica only
John Jay Feiler cobalt.cco.caltech.edu!jjfeiler wizards
John Lacey cis.ohio-state.edu!basho!john internals
John Macdonald gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utzoo!eci386!jmm esoterica only
John P. Nelson genrad.com!jpn wizards
John Pimentel frog!jp wizards
Jon J. Brewster cs.wayne.edu!jjb wizards
Jon Tombs robots.oxford.ac.uk!jon wizards
Jonathan Creighton hqsun3.oracle.com!JCREIGHT.US1.oramail wizards
Jonathan I. Kamens pit-manager.MIT.EDU!jik esoterica only
Jonathan Peatfield harlqn.co.uk!jon wizards
Jonathan Thornburg mtsg.ubc.ca!Jonathan_Thornburg esoterica
Joseph E Poplawski fantasci!jep wizards
Joseph P. Sanzo iris613.gsfc.nasa.gov!sanzo wizards
Joshua Osborne eng.umd.edu!stripes esoterica
Karen Valentino everexn!karen esoterica
Karl Heuer ima.isc.com!karl internals
Karl Tombre loria.crin.fr!tombre wizards
Karsisto Konsta lehtori.tut.fi!kk102029 wizards
Ken Lerman stepstone.com!lerman internals
Kent Paul Dolan zorch.SF-Bay.ORG!xanthian esoterica only
Kevin J. Jarnot acsu.buffalo.edu!planck!sigmast!kjj wizards
Krishnan Pillaipakkamnatt vuse.vanderbilt.edu!krish internals
Kristoffer Eriksson pkmab.se!ske internals
Kurt J. Lidl eng.umd.edu!lidl esoterica
Kurt Schreiner dfki.uni-sb.de!ks wizards
LCDR Michael E. Dobson nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil!rdc30med internals
Laird J. Heal chinet.chi.il.us!laird wizards
Larry Gillespie tessi!larry wizards
Larry Little lance.tis.llnl.gov!llittle wizards
Larry Setlow fqyvax.cpac.washington.edu!pjt wizards
Larry Wall devvax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!lwall esoterica
Lars Pensj| myab.se!lars internals
Lehtim{ki Erkki tut.fi!eal wizards
Les Hill serc.cis.ufl.edu!leh wizards only
Liz Allen grian.cps.altadena.ca.us!liz esoterica
Luc Rooijakkers cs.kun.nl!lwj wizards
Luciano Mannucci modus.sublink.org!luke esoterica
Maarten Litmaath cs.vu.nl!maart esoterica
Magnus Olsson castor.ldc.lu.se!DNALIB esoterica
Marcus J. Ranum decuac.DEC.COM!mjr wizards only
Mark Adams medicus.com!mca wizards
Mark Brader sq.com!msb esoterica
Mark C. Henderson RELAY.CS.NET!crl.labs.tek.com!markh wizards
Mark M Mehl atanasoff!mehl esoterica only
Mark McWiggins intek.com!mark esoterica
Mark Reinhold larch.LCS.MIT.EDU!mbr wizards
Martin Boening nixdorf.de!mboening.pad,nixdorf.de!newsadm.pad esoterica only
Mary-Anne Wolf PWS.BULL.COM!mwolf esoterica
Matt Day iconsys.icon.com!mday wizards
Matthew Farwell ibmpcug.co.uk!dylan wizards
Micah Altman SGI.COM!flobb4.csd.sgi.com!micah wizards
Michael A. Petonic dirty.csc.ti.com!mikep wizards only
Michael Coleman CS.UCLA.EDU!coleman internals
Michael Francis Polis andrew.cmu.edu!mp3o+ wizards
Michael Richardson fts1!michael esoterica
Mike Brightwell Kodak.COM!nobody esoterica
Mike Faber wybbs.mi.org!sleepy wizards
Mike Lee isdc00.kodak.com!i249585 internals
Mike Northam ext 2651 tektronix.TEK.COM!fpssun.UUCP!mbn!mbn internals
Neil W. Rickert cs.niu.edu!rickert wizards
Nick Crossley uunet.UU.NET!ccicpg!hobbit!ndjc wizards
Nigel Gamble uunet!modcomp!nigel esoterica
Norman Joseph daver.bungi.com!ditka!oglvee!norm internals
Norman Yarvin yale!yarvin-norman wizards
Ofer Inbar chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!cos wizards
Osvaldo Gold apollo.la.locus.com!osvaldo internals
PETER MURRAY pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!MIAVX1.BITNET!PEMURRAY wizards
Pat Barron orac.pgh.pa.us!pat wizards
Patrick Bartkus ncrats.Atlanta.NCR.COM!bartkus internals
Paul E. Maisano aaii.oz.au!pem esoterica
Paul L. Rowe p4tustin!paul internals
Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!paul internals
Paul S R Chisholm mtunq.att.com!psrc esoterica
Paul S. Sawyer paul@unhtel.UUCP wizards
Paul Sutcliffe Jr. devon.LNS.PA.US!paul esoterica
Paul Woodman praxis.co.uk!woody wizards
Paul Zeldin synoptics.com!paulz internals
Paul-Andre Panon ucs.ubc.ca!panon wizards
Per Hedeland erix.ericsson.se!per wizards only
Peter Desnoyers codex!peterd wizards
Peter Hahn plugh.network.com!hahn wizards
Peter da Silva ficc.ferranti.com!peter wizards
Rajeev Menon relay.hp.com!hpnmdla!hpsrrkm!rajeev wizards
Ralph Clark ttidcc.TTI.COM!clark wizards
Richard H. Miller pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu!rick esoterica
Richard M. Mathews devnet.la.locus.com!richard internals
Risto Kankkunen cs.Helsinki.FI!kankkune esoterica
Rob Bernardo mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US!rob esoterica
Rob McMahon cu.warwick.ac.uk!cudcv wizards only
Robert A. Levene aplcomm.jhuapl.edu!levene wizards
Robert Claeson erbe.se!prc esoterica
Robert G. Knox whittaker.rice.edu!knox esoterica
Robert Malmgren TK/DG mvsun.ericsson.se!rom wizards
Robert Olson sax.cs.uiuc.edu!olson wizards
Roger B.A. Klorese mips.com!rogerk wizards
Roger H. Brown mstr.hgc.edu!rhb internals
Ron Heiby chg.mcd.mot.com!heiby internals
Ron Romero csseq!romero esoterica
Ron Widell motmpl!ron wizards
Ronald S H Khoo robobar.co.uk!ronald wizards
Ronnie Kon boris.mindcraft.com!mindcrf!ronnie esoterica
Ryan Waldron aladdin!ryan wizards
Saul Lubkin cs.rochester.edu!lubkin wizards
Scott Barman nbc1.ge.com!scott wizards
Scott R. Anderson lestat.LIMBO.MN.ORG!scott esoterica
Scott Schwartz groucho.cs.psu.edu!schwartz wizards
Seth Breidbart fir.Morgan.COM!sethb esoterica
Shannon D. Appel ocf.Berkeley.EDU!appel wizards
Shawn Marier unicorn.cc.wwu.edu!marier wizards
Shirley Sloper calmasd.Prime.COM!sas internals
Soren Larsen imada.dk!larsen internals
Staff Tony Guzzi brcvax.brc.uconn.edu!tony wizards
Stefan Esser ikp.Uni-Koeln.DE!se wizards
Stephen Friedl mtndew.Tustin.CA.US!friedl wizards
Steve Alter ttidca.TTI.COM!alter internals
Steve Clark cme.nist.gov!clark esoterica
Steve McConnel txsil.lonestar.org!steve esoterica
Steve Simmons iti.org!scs internals
Steve Summit ATHENA.MIT.EDU!scs wizards
Steven Noyd Jones cac.washington.edu!noyd internals
Stuart L Labovitz galaxy.afit.af.mil!slabovit esoterica
Stuart Lynne wimsey.bc.ca!sl wizards
System Manager Acct. lccinc!sysmgr wizards
Tad Guy abcfd01.larc.nasa.gov!tadguy internals
Ted Lemon wse.dec.com!mellon wizards
The Programmer Guy bally.Bally.COM!jkimble wizards only
Theo Deraadt cpsc.ucalgary.ca!deraadt wizards
Tim Cook admin.viccol.edu.au!timcc internals
Tim Sullivan LANL.GOV!infidel!tims internals
Timothy D Aanerud CFSMO.Honeywell.COM!tima esoterica
Timothy VanFosson cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu!timv internals
Todd L. Masco andrew.cmu.edu!tm2b+ wizards
Tom Frauenhofer uu.psi.com!cci632!sun01!tvf wizards
Tom Littauer uts.amdahl.com!littauer esoterica
Tom Pronk wmt!topr internals
Tony L Hansen pegasus.att.com!hansen wizards
Tony Russell gargoyle.uchicago.edu!oct1!tony wizards
Trent R. Hein headrest.Colorado.EDU!trent wizards
Trevor John Thompson mks!tj esoterica
Utilities acct lccinc!utils wizards
VLD/VMB Doug Gwyn BRL.MIL!gwyn internals
Vasilis Prevelakis cui.unige.ch!vp esoterica only
William Clare Stewart erebus.att.com!wcs wizards
William G. Bunton balkan.tnt.com!wgb wizards
Wilson H. Bent, Jr. hoh-2.att.com!whb esoterica
dave David Fayegh cs.ubc.ca!fayegh wizards
joe Burke edinboro.edu!j709393b wizards
kevin p burke mermaid.litle.com!kevin wizards
linwood.d.johnson linwood@cbnewsk.att.com wizards
paj gec-mrc.co.uk!paj esoterica
pri=20 Chris Halpin mitisft!halpin wizards
wesley john ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!wjohn esotericajgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu (John G. Myers) (12/15/90)
I fail to understand Laird's math. According to his post, the votes were: The voting tallies for the respective categories were: comp.unix.esoterica 61 comp.unix.esoterica only 16 comp.unix.internals 61 comp.unix.wizards 144 comp.unix.wizards only 19 That makes 144+19= 163 votes for wizards and 16+61=77 against, making the proposal fail the 100-vote margin by 14 votes. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu (412) 268-2984 LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up "It's not bogus, It's an IBM standard" --Esther Filderman
jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) (12/15/90)
In article <Dec.14.10.09.21.1990.12138@turbo.bio.net> laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) writes: >As the name comp.unix.wizards received more than twice as many votes as >the name comp.unix.esoterica, the vote passed for comp.unix.wizards. I >will, then, send out a rmgroup message for comp.unix.internals in five >days, together with a newgroup for comp.unix.wizards and a request to >alias comp.unix.internals to comp.unix.wizards. Please don't rush this too much. As big of a mistake as the change to c.u.internals was, let's don't commit another mistake by switching things over too quickly. How about - 1). In five days, issue a newgroup for comp.unix.wizards along with a request to alias comp.unix.internals. 2). Wait a month and issue an rmgroup for comp.unix.internals along with a reminder to perform the aliasing. >pri=20 Chris Halpin mitisft!halpin wizards God, I feel sorry for this guy. How does he ever get anything done with that nice value? Maybe he should try chfn and see if he can get that pri= removed ... -- John F. Haugh II UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh Ma Bell: (512) 832-8832 Domain: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org "While you are here, your wives and girlfriends are dating handsome American movie and TV stars. Stars like Tom Selleck, Bruce Willis, and Bart Simpson."
jim@segue.segue.com (Jim Balter) (12/16/90)
In article <11409@pt.cs.cmu.edu> jgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu (John G. Myers) writes: >I fail to understand Laird's math. According to his post, the votes >were: > >The voting tallies for the respective categories were: > >comp.unix.esoterica 61 >comp.unix.esoterica only 16 >comp.unix.internals 61 >comp.unix.wizards 144 >comp.unix.wizards only 19 > >That makes 144+19= 163 votes for wizards and 16+61=77 against, making >the proposal fail the 100-vote margin by 14 votes. If you spend no time trying to understand his explanation of the meaning of the categories, then you can come to this conclusion. Just what do you think the distinction between the only and non-only categories is? Your arithmetic lumps them together, and only deals with 4 of the 5 values. On the other hand, a less lazy analysis would lead you to realize that the categories imply different orderings. comp.unix.esoterica esoterica > wizards > internals 61 comp.unix.esoterica only esoterica > internals > wizards 16 comp.unix.internals internals > (esoterica or wizards) 61 comp.unix.wizards wizards > esoterica > internals 144 comp.unix.wizards only wizards > internals > esoterica 19 where ">" means "is preferred to". This gives us esoterica > internals 61+16+144 = 221 internals > esoterica 61+19 = 80 wizards > internals 61+144+19 = 224 internals > wizards 16+61 = 77 wizards > esoterica 144+19 = 163 esoterica > wizards 61+16 = 77 Disclaimer: I didn't vote, have no preference, and find the whole exercise pointless and immature.
laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) (12/16/90)
In article <11409@pt.cs.cmu.edu> jgm@fed.expres.cs.cmu.edu (John G. Myers) writes: >I fail to understand Laird's math. According to his post, the votes >were: > >That makes 144+19= 163 votes for wizards and 16+61=77 against, making >the proposal fail the 100-vote margin by 14 votes. I was hoping not to have to use the clause, but I was not sure that there would be enough votes in a tripartite scheme to carry the 100+ margin, so I created a quintapartite scheme. I also mailed individual attributions in part in order to head off too much flambescence after the vote - as I mentioned, several voters changed to "only" (or in at least one case from "only") so I have to assume that they got the message. To quote from the Call: If you want to vote to replace comp.unix.internals only if your choice passes, use 'comp.unix.esoterica only' or 'comp.unix.wizards only' on the Subject: line, otherwise I will not count your vote against the 2/3 majority needed to conform to the Guidelines. That is, a vote reading Subject: comp.unix.esoterica only is a vote against comp.unix.wizards but a vote reading Subject: comp.unix.esoterica is a vote for esoterica but possibly also for wizards. and that is how I tallied them. -- Laird J. Heal The Usenet is dead! Here: laird@chinet.chi.il.us Long Live the Usenet!