steve@tellab2.UUCP (Steve Harpster) (07/05/84)
Does anyone know if Berkeley plans to support 4.?BSD on the VAX 11/785 or the (as yet unannounced) VAX 11/790 / Venus?
henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (07/07/84)
Read the latest communiques from Berkeley again: Berkeley, of late,
is not promising to support *anything* on *any* machine for *anyone*.
Maybe they'll do something about the new VAX cpus; maybe not. It's
quite unlikely that Berkeley will ever again do anything that might be
interpreted as making promises in advance.
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{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henryeric@aplvax.UUCP (07/08/84)
On the other hand, I would be very surprised if Ultrix is not available for the new machines. Considering that DEC is going to support Ultrix on the MicroVax, I would be amazed if they do not support it on the bigger machines. -- eric ...!seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!eric
hans@log-hb.UUCP (Hans Albertsson) (07/11/84)
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Since DEC is in on the 4.x wagon now, expect 4.x on any and all VAXen.
UNIX on a 785, or on a 790 would probably be ok, and DEC probably
wants very much to get it running.
Anyone at decsites wanting to comment?
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SWEDENdpk@BRL-TGR.ARPA (07/12/84)
From: Doug Kingston <dpk@BRL-TGR.ARPA> 4.2BSD, with fixes for the new memory controller, will indeed run on a VAX/785. -Doug-
mike@BRL-TGR.ARPA (07/12/84)
From: Mike Muuss <mike@BRL-TGR.ARPA> 4.2 works fine on a VAX 11/785. -Mike
ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (07/14/84)
Our version of 4.2 ran on a 785 without modification. Armando said that ULTRIX does, too. If someone wants to donate a 790, we'll test that as well. -Ron
gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (07/15/84)
What is a 790? Does DEC offer something with this number? Will they?
cbspt002@abnjh.UUCP (Marc E. Kenig ) (07/17/84)
<> The '790' as it has been referred to is a high end VAX thusfar only codenamed 'VENUS' (the morning STAR, get it?). It is a VAX processor and should be (depending on what wild rumors you believe) between 4 and 7 Mips. Depending on whatever other wild rumors you believe, it will have a 32-bit bus. It will (should) be configured along the lines of an IBM, with a disk server (the Star Coupler) out one end, and a LAN (ethernet) out the other, abandoning DFM's, UDA's and the like in lieu of a centralized crunching mainframe. There will also be UNIBUS support so sights can upgrade. Actually the number is the last thing given to a new machine by DEC and that it will be a VAX 11/790 is only wild rumor and conjecture.
ron@BRL-TGR.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP (07/20/84)
From: Ron Natalie <ron@BRL-TGR.ARPA> Our version is a pretty much stock 4.2 with bugs fixed and support for the new memory controllers which we bought for our 780 which are used on the 785. I didn't run the test so I don't know about the speed change. My overall opinion is that 785's are pretty unimpressive in themselves (unless you are just upgrading an existing 780). If DEC doesn't come out with a new computer (a bigger VAX not a micro one) they're going to lose a lot of the business. -Ron
dpk@BRL-TGR.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP (07/20/84)
From: Doug Kingston <dpk@BRL-TGR.ARPA> I am familiar with the person who ran the test with a BRL 4.2BSD system on a 785. 4.2BSD gets essentially the the same speedup as VMS. Faster microcode is faster microcode, and faster logic is faster logic. Both systems benefit. The speedup is around 50%, and the same is true for VMS. -Doug-