andrew@calvin.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick) (04/02/91)
The results are in for the proposed newsgroup comp.sources.reviewed.
The voting was closed on Sun Mar 31 1991.
A total of 324 valid votes were received (excluding duplicate votes and
one person who voted both "yes" and "no", see below).
"Yes": 270 votes
"No": 54 votes
Criterion 1: 100 more "yes" than "no" votes
270 - 54 = 216 OK
Criterion 2: at least 2/3 of the total number of votes are "yes"
270/324 = 83% OK
Therefore, comp.sources.reviewed passes and will be added as a
newsgroup. However, it is customary to have a 5-day waiting when the
votes can be verified.
Listed below are the names of the people from whom I recorded votes,
sorted into "yes" and "no" categories.
"Yes" votes:
"CONTR, HERRICK, DAN" <abvax!iccgcc.decnet.ab.com!herrickd@uunet.UU.NET>
"Christopher M. Conway" <wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com>
"D. J. McCarthy ~" <dmccart%modl01.intel.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
"Erich Meier (Inf4 - hiwi)" <ecmeier@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
"Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
"Karsten Nyblad, TFL, Denmark" <KARSTEN@tfl.dk>
"Mark W. Eichin" <eichin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
"Ralph P. Sobek" <ralph@vega.laas.fr>
"Roger H. Goun 18-Mar-1991 1242" <goun@ddif.enet.dec.com>
"Stuart L Labovitz" <valinor!stu>
"Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr" <TERRY%SPCVXA.BITNET@qucdn.queensu.ca>
"Terry Poot" <tp@mccall.com>
"Vander Pol, Mark" <markv@elmer.hls.com>
"david d [zoo] zuhn" <zoo@aps1.spa.umn.edu>
"william b. coleman" <clmn@midway.uchicago.edu>
@polari@cs.washington.edu ( )
Alan B. Clegg <abc@concert.net>
Andrei Cogan <coganman@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Baruch Cochavy <blue%techunix.BITNET@qucdn.queensu.ca>
Ben Golding <bgg@pta.oz.au>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Bill Bogstad <wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu>
Bill Randle <billr%saab.cna.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
Bob Narron <bob@ipac.caltech.edu>
Bruce Sherrod <bsherrod@rome.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Christopher Bryden <bryden@freezer.acs.udel.edu>
Christopher Mc Kulka <mckulka@endor.cs.psu.edu>
Clive Chinery <aisnet!clive@relay.EU.net>
Dan Poirier <poirier@cs.unc.edu>
Dave Allum <D.R.Allum@gdt.bath.ac.uk>
Dave Sill <de5@de5.ctd.ornl.gov>
David Herron <david@TWG.COM>
Doug Lee <dlee@athenanet.com>
Doug Sewell <DOUG@YSUB.YSU.EDU>
Douglas N. Arnold <dna@math.psu.edu>
Draphsor vo'drun-Aelf <draphsor@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Eamonn McManus <em@dce.ie>
Ed McGuire <emcguire@cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu>
Ed Reed <mitel!uunet!leadsv!ereed>
Fergus O'Reilly <magic!fergus%crp.capsogeti.fr>
Geoff Kuenning <mitel!devnet.la.locus.com!geoff>
Gisle Hannemyr <gisle@ifi.uio.no>
Guy Middleton <gamiddleton@watmath.uwaterloo.ca>
James Beal <james_@cs.qmw.ac.uk>
James da Silva <jds@cs.UMD.EDU>
Jamie Blustein <jamie@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Jan van der Steen <jansteen@cwi.nl>
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@thesis1.hsch.utexas.edu>
Jean-Loup Gailly <jloup@chorus.fr>
Jeff Okamoto <okamoto@hpcc25.corp.hp.com>
Jeremy J Bolio <matrix@rpi.edu>
Jim Bevier - J B Systems <jbev@iscden.jbsys.com>
Jo Are Rosland <jar@ifi.uio.no>
John Coolidge <coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu>
John Romine <jromine@buckaroo.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Jussi Heinonen <thorens@utu.fi>
Larry Gillespie <tessi!larry@uunet.UU.NET>
Laszlo C. Balint <lba@kolvi.hut.fi>
Linh Ngo <L1NGO@CUDENVER>
Malcolm Mladenovic <mbm@dsbc.icl.stc.co.uk>
Marc Rouleau <mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Mark Eichin <eichin@apollo.com>
Mark Nagel <nagel@buckaroo.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Mark Reinhold <mbr@larch.lcs.mit.edu>
Marty Ryba <marty@puppsr.Princeton.EDU>
Matthias Urlichs <urlichs%smurf.sub.org@RELAY.CS.NET>
Merri L Naka <mnaka@ICS.UCI.EDU>
Michel B. Cormier <micor!mcormier>
Palmer Davis <davisp@SCL.CWRU.Edu>
Patrick e. Fleming <pfleming@hpuxa.acs.ohio-state.edu>
ROEBER@CITHE1.CITHEP.CALTECH.EDU (Frederick G. M. Roeber)
Rein Tollevik <rein@ifi.uio.no>
Rick Ellis <rick@ofa123.fidonet.ORG>
Roger Fulton <roger@wrq.com>
Rupert G. Goldie <rgg@aaii.oz.au>
Sam Horrocks <sam@john-bigboote.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Scott Barman <mitel!nbc1.ge.com!scott>
Scott R. Weis KB2EAR <kb2ear!kb2ear@rutgers.edu>
Sean Philip Engelson <engelson-sean@CS.YALE.EDU>
Soren Larsen <larsen@imada.dk>
Stan Barber <sob@tmc.edu>
TWG!bill@wimsey.bc.ca@dgbt.doc.ca
Terry B Lyons <pride386!terry@uunet.uu.net>
Thomas Andreasson <and@sap-ag.de>
Tim Cook <timcc@admin.viccol.edu.au>
Tim Day <tday@ps.ucl.ac.uk>
Tim Morgan <morgan@john-parker.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Tom Anderson <toma@hpsadri.hp.com>
Tom Haapanen <tom@mims-iris.uwaterloo.ca>
Tom Roehl <stubby!tom@uunet.UU.NET>
Tony Wilson <shapetc!wilson@relay.EU.net>
Torben Lange <admitl@aau.dk>
ajt@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Andy Thomas)
akiko@pegasus.com (Akiko Katayama)
alan@msc.edu
ambar@artemis.ora.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
andy@icom.icom.com (Andrew H. Marrinson)
andyh@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Bor-Jau Hsieh)
andyr@soc1.ssl.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Rose)
anthony@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Anthony Baxter)
arg@ccvr1.cc.ncsu.edu (Ron Gallant)
arnold@audiofax.com (Arnold Robbins)
ath@linkoping.telesoft.se
aurs01!aurw91!miles@mcnc.org (Robert Miles)
autodesk!melange!abeals@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (DOS: Tastes like chicken when properly prepared.)
bart@cs.uoregon.edu
bba@probe.att.com (Binayak Banerjee)
berson@cs.pitt.edu (David A. Berson)
biff@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells)
bob@psitech.com (Bob Posert)
bobwhite@nova.ta52.lanl.gov (James R (Bob) White)
bwhite@inmet (Bill White)
cals@cals01.Newport.RI.US (Charles A. Sefranek)
celit!fpssun.fps.com!mbn.fps.com!mbn@UCSD.EDU (Mike Northam ext 2651)
cew@ISI.EDU (Craig E. Ward)
chris@rsl-egg.com (Chris Greve)
christos@guillemin.EE.CORNELL.EDU (Christos S. Zoulas)
cognos!cunews!alzabo.ocunix.on.ca!kebera (Krishna E. Bera)
coleman@twinsun.com (Mike Coleman)
curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Curt J. Sampson)
danj1@ihlpz.att.com (Daniel Jacobson)
dave@Galaxia.Newport.RI.US (David H. Brierley)
david@glacier.ICS.UCI.EDU
davide%cadillac.cad.mcc.com@mcc.com (David Eckelkamp)
dciem!bkj386!brian (Brian Jenkins)
dciem!chrisj%netcom.com (Christopher Jewell)
dciem!corondan%eds.com
dciem!doug%letni.LoneStar.org (Doug Davis)
dciem!gatech!scicom.alphacdc.com!rcw (Robert White)
dciem!gatech!uncecs.edu!thebeach.UUCP!meto (nobody)
dciem!jmm%eci386 (John Macdonald)
dciem!nelson%berlioz.nsc.com (Taed Nelson)
dciem!nick%ryelect (Nick Colonello)
dciem!rancor!bob%cs.utexas.edu (Bob Willcox)
dciem!rducky!jrp%polyslo.calpoly.edu (JIM PICKERING)
dciem!seachg!jalsop (John Alsop)
dciem!smu!letni!ataritx!dwh%cs.utexas.edu (Dave Hanna)
dciem!steve%txsil.lonestar.org (Steve McConnel)
dcm@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com (David C. Miller)
delaney@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Delaney)
dfreuden@govt.shearson.com (David G Freudenstein)
dglo@ads.com (Dave Glowacki)
doctor@von-neumann.info.polymtl.ca (Paul Do (News))
dprmjc@Arco.COM (M. J. Cole)
dsndata!wayne@uunet.UU.NET (Wayne Schlitt)
dupuy@hudson.cs.columbia.edu (Alexander Dupuy)
edhew@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
electro!carlo@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Carlo Sgro)
fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald)
fred@cc.uit.no
fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (fritz zaucker)
frk@sybase.com (frank korzeniewski)
frnkmth!frnk400!jesse@decwrl.dec.com (Jesse Perry)
gatech!uflorida!rm1!bapat (Subodh Bapat)
genek@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Gene Kim)
geoff@sigmawa.UUCP@munnari.oz.au
geyer@galton.uchicago.edu
goehring@gnu.ai.mit.edu
gs26@prism.gatech.edu (Glenn R. Stone)
gtoal@tardis.computer-science.edinburgh.ac.uk
gvr@cs.brown.edu (George V. Reilly)
hassey@dg-rtp.dg.com (John Hassey)
hpubvwa!ssc!Mark.Zenier@cs.washington.edu
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
iczer-1!emm@uunet.uu.net
inesc!fmhv@relay.EU.net (Fernando Manuel Vasconcelos)
inesc!rpc@relay.EU.net (Rui Casteleiro)
isgtec!ted (Ted Richards)
jba@gorm.ruc.dk (Jan B.Andersen)
jbd@dasteel.dasteel (Jonathan Dasteel)
jcc@axis-design.fr (Jean-Christophe Collet)
jcm@squid.adi.com (John Martin)
jef@ee.lbl.gov (Jef Poskanzer)
jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
jgabriel@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Juan Gabriel Ruiz Pinto)
jhf@cblpe.att.com (Jeffri H Frontz)
jimr@maths.su.oz.au (Jim Richardson)
jnemeth@cue (John Nemeth)
jpn@genrad.com (John P. Nelson)
keenan@inmet.inmet.com (Keenan Ross )
kirk@ico.isc.com (Kirk Webb)
kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken McVay)
kolb@kub.nl (Hans-Peter Kolb)
ksb@nostromo.cc.purdue.edu (Kevin Braunsdorf)
lerman@stepstone.com (Ken Lerman)
levisonm@qucis.queensu.ca (Mark Levison)
lingnau@rbiffm.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (Anselm Lingnau)
lmb@sat.com (Larry Blair)
lwj@cs.kun.nl
lwv27%CAS.BITNET@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy)
marlor@dream.sublink.org (Marco Lorenzini)
martelli@hp400p.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
maslen@Eng.Sun.COM (Thomas Maslen)
meissner@osf.org
mellon@nigiri.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon)
metcalf@mamane.IFA.Hawaii.Edu (Tom Metcalf)
milhow1!how@uunet.uu.net
miron@cs.sfu.ca@dgbt.doc.ca
mitel!ddsw1.mcs.com!kestrel (Ryan Pazdur)
mitel!happym.wa.com!irving (Irving_Wolfe on reddog)
mitel!indetech.com!david (David Kuder x2003)
mitel!juts.ccc.amdahl.com!ked01 (Kim DeVaughn)
mitel!mport.com!lee (Lee Crocker)
mitel!onion.rain.com!jeff (Jeff Beadles)
mitel!sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM!kent (Kent Landfield)
mitel!sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM!rick (Richard Ohnemus)
mitel!uunet!ars2!briank
mitel!uunet!coplex!dean (Dean Brooks)
mitel!uunet!infmx!crickhollow!cortesi (David Cortesi)
mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Mark-Jason Dominus)
moon!jh@uunet.UU.NET (John Harkin)
muir@CSI.COM (David Muir Sharnoff)
neil@wcc.oz.au (Neil Murray)
nixbur!koerber.sin@uunet.uu.net
nv90-mho@nada.kth.se
nyssa!lingua7!steve@unicorn.cc.wwu.edu (Steven C. Work)
ooms@delgeo.nl (Frank Ooms)
paj <paj@gec-mrc.co.uk>
pda@Dixie.Com (Paul D. Anderson)
peter@taronga.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva)
philip@itd.dsto.oz.au (Philip Dart)
pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul Graham)
rfinch@locke.water.ca.gov (Ralph Finch)
richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
rjh@btc.kodak.com (Rod Holland)
ro@thp.Uni-Koeln.DE
rob%phavl@uunet.UU.NET (Robert Ransbottom)
rob@epoch.com (Rob Kenna)
roger@xn.ll.mit.edu
root@cca.ucsf.EDU (Systems Staff)
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk
rothstei@mcs.kent.edu (Michael Rothstein)
russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz
ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com (Ryan Waldron)
sandia!marms@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mike Arms)
scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
shaver@orion.convex.com (Dave Shaver)
skrenta@amix.commodore.com (Rich Skrenta)
slamont@network.UCSD.EDU (Steve Lamont)
sliu@el-shaddai.sbi.com (Steven C. Liu)
smith!dick@nrtc.northrop.com
spencer@spline.eecs.umich.edu
stb@isbank.is (Steintor Bjarnason)
steen@kiku.dk (Steen Hammerum)
steve@nuchat.sccsi.com (Steve Nuchia)
stripes@eng.umd.edu (Joshua Osborne)
syd@dsinc.dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey)
taube@isa.de (Christian Taube)
tct!chip@uunet.UU.NET (Chip Salzenberg)
tdinger@East.Sun.COM (Tom Dinger - Sun BOS SPA)
tibor%autro1.UUCP@nac.no (Tibor Stern jr.)
tim@grenada.bellcore.com (Tim J Ihde)
tima@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Timothy D Aanerud)
tom@hcx2.SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Tom Horsley)
tombre@loria.crin.fr (Karl Tombre)
tvf@sun01.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
vp@fct.unl.pt
vp@fct.unl.pt (Vasco Pedro)
wex@PWS.BULL.COM
wht@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US (Warren Tucker)
wilber@alice.att.com
win@incom.de (Winfried Koenig)
wolves.uucp!delong@mcnc.org
wolves.uucp!ggw@mcnc.org (Gregory G. Woodbury)
wolves.uucp!hebert@mcnc.org (Jim Hebert)
wolves.uucp!jim@mcnc.org
"No" votes:
"Douglas F. DeJulio" <dd26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
"Neil Rickert, N Illinois U, CS" <rickert@cs.niu.edu>
"The Wandering Wizard" <uunet!vampire!network_mgr>
6sceng!blm@cs.washington.edu (Brian Matthews)
Brett K. Carver <brett@hpsrbkc.hp.com>
Dan Schlitt <dan@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>
Eric Olson <ejo@ims.alaska.edu>
Jean-Francois Rit <rit@killdeer.Stanford.EDU>
Joel B Levin <levin@BBN.COM>
John Curran <jcurran@SH.CS.NET>
John Lacey <basho!john@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se>
Matthew Farwell <dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk>
Ozan Yigit <oz@nexus.yorku.ca>
Ralph Clark <clark@ttidcb.tti.com>
Richard H. Miller <rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu>
Shannon D. Appel <appel@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Steve Hayman <sahayman@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Timothy VanFosson <timv@cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu>
Tom Christiansen <tchrist@pixel.convex.com>
Tom Epperly <epperly@osnome.che.wisc.edu>
ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
brnstnd@KRAMDEN.ACF.NYU.EDU (Dan Bernstein)
ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel)
david@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (David Robinson)
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com
dciem!6sceng!blm%cs.washington.edu (Brian Matthews)
dciem!letni!digi.lonestar.org!kgallagh%utacfd.uta.edu (Kevin Gallagher)
dciem!woods%eci386 (Greg A. Woods)
eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
gary@proa.sv.dg.com (Gary Bridgewater)
jcs@uafhp.uark.edu (James Sullins)
jgd@Dixie.Com (John G. DeArmond)
jlitvin@st860.intel.com (John Litvin)
karl@ficc.ferranti.com (karl lehenbauer)
lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot)
lsuc!linus!russ%shannon.Alliant.COM (Russell McFatter)
merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
mikel@mozart.AMD.COM (Michael W. Wellman)
mitel!psg.com!news (Randy Bush)
mitel!pyramid.pyramid.com!csg (Carl S. Gutekunst)
mitel!se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM!bhoule (Bill Houle)
mitel!uunet!vicstoy!jellis (Jacob Ellis)
nazgul@alfalfa.com (Kee Hinckley)
oc@VMP.COM (Orlan Cannon)
osyjm@caesar.cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
paul@devon.lns.pa.us (Paul Sutcliffe Jr.)
pda@Dixie.Com (Paul D. Anderson)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard Peirce)
poulin@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc C. Poulin)
raymond@math.berkeley.edu (Raymond Chen)
rsk@juniper.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller)
vandys@sequent.com
One person voted both "yes" and "no":
Date: 28 Feb 91 10:14:02 EST (Thu)
From: pda@Dixie.Com (Paul D. Anderson)
"I vote YES for comp.sources.reviewed."
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* Paul Anderson * Dixie Communications * (404) 578-9547 * pda@dixie.com *
Date: 4 Mar 91 10:42:52 EST (Mon)
From: pda@Dixie.Com (Paul D. Anderson)
Status: OR
"I vote NO for comp.sources.reviewed."
---
* Paul Anderson * Dixie Communications * (404) 578-9547 * pda@dixie.com *
These two votes were ignored.
--
Andrew Patrick, Ph.D. Department of Communications, Ottawa, CANADA
andrew@calvin.doc.CA
"The interface IS the program."brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) (04/02/91)
In article <4!.g+#m@rpi.edu> andrew@calvin.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick) writes: > Therefore, comp.sources.reviewed passes and will be added as a > newsgroup. Okay, anyone for bets on exactly how this group will fail? Will it remain embroiled in discussion about the reviewing process? Will the moderator give up in disgust? Will the reviewers fail to accomplish anything in a reasonable amount of time? Will one of the first ten packages through the group crash miserably or destroy files? Will USENET go down the tubes with the volume of complaints about the slowness of comp.sources.reviewed? Will postings mysteriously fail to materialize at any archive sites? Or will people simply ignore a group which achieves no useful purpose? There are lots of juicy possibilities. I vote for all of them. ---Dan
tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) (04/03/91)
In article <29278:Apr215:39:3191@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >In article <4!.g+#m@rpi.edu> andrew@calvin.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick) writes: >> Therefore, comp.sources.reviewed passes and will be added as a >> newsgroup. > >Okay, anyone for bets on exactly how this group will fail? Perhaps it will be nagged to death by the nattering nabobs of negativism. :-)
diamond@jit345.swstokyo.dec.com (Norman Diamond) (04/03/91)
In article <29278:Apr215:39:3191@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >Will it remain embroiled in discussion about the reviewing process? Will >the moderator give up in disgust? Will the reviewers fail to accomplish >anything in a reasonable amount of time? Will one of the first ten >packages through the group crash miserably or destroy files? Will USENET >go down the tubes with the volume of complaints about the slowness of >comp.sources.reviewed? Will postings mysteriously fail to materialize at >any archive sites? Or will people simply ignore a group which achieves >no useful purpose? My, aren't we grouchy this morning. How one person can post such useful information and code half the time, and then turn around and spout such garbage, is beyond me. Look Mr. Bernstein, if you're so afraid of comp.sources.reviewed, don't subscribe to the group. And don't post to it; you can post to alt.sources. There's no need for you to interfere with the wishes of others. >There are lots of juicy possibilities. I vote for all of them. The voting period is passed. I hate to suggest that if you dislike the voting conventions of Usenet, that you should unsubscribe from Usenet. Perhaps you should start a new thread suggesting that the voting conventions should be changed. Perhaps you want a longer period of time for discussion, so that you can try harder to convince more people of your opinion. Perhaps you want the rule on 100 more yes than no votes to be increased, say to 200 (oh is this sarcastic? OK then say 300). I personally feel that the only "no" votes that ever should have counted were those of old backbone sites, and that today the "no" votes should not be counted at all. 'Fraid I can't suggest how many "yes" votes should be necessary, so I can't make a real suggestion. But anyway, my .newsrc has an awful lot of "!"s in it, and my "j" key gets a lot of use, and there are a lot of real-world magazines that I don't subscribe to. What's the problem? -- Norman Diamond diamond@tkov50.enet.dec.com If this were the company's opinion, I wouldn't be allowed to post it.
rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) (04/04/91)
In article <29278:Apr215:39:3191@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >In article <4!.g+#m@rpi.edu> andrew@calvin.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick) writes: >> Therefore, comp.sources.reviewed passes and will be added as a >> newsgroup. > >Okay, anyone for bets on exactly how this group will fail? Dang, what's that smell? And that taste... tangy, yet a hint of something rotten, what is that? I't familiar around here... Oh yes! Sour Grapes!