rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) (05/10/91)
One more person cries out for sanity. The HP48 is transient. The reason there isn't a rec.arts.sflovers.total.recall is that "Total Recall" was transient. The reason there isn't a comp.sys.mac.energizer.bunny is that the Energizer Bunny was transient. So is the issue of a 32 bit clean ROM upgrade for the SE/30 (I hope, I hope). Granted, the lifespan of interest in the HP48 is longer than for any Arnie movie; it's still too short a time, for too small an audience, to justify a separate newsgroup, judged by the standards of other newsgroups. One person complains he's tired of pushing the "n" key. One wonders whether he also advocates the total revamping of the New York Times on the grounds that he doesn't want to read every article in the paper and is tired of flipping pages. Me, I'm tired of these half-a**ed attempts to rearrange the heirarchy. -- - Rich Holmes rich@suhep.bitnet or rich@suhep.phy.syr.edu Syracuse U. Physics Dept. or if you must: rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu The Kuwaitis have oil. The Kurds don't. End of story.
rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) (05/11/91)
In article <1991May10.145918.4830@rodan.acs.syr.edu> rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes: >One more person cries out for sanity. Or just cries... >The HP48 is transient. The reason there isn't a rec.arts.sflovers.total.recall >is that "Total Recall" was transient. The reason there isn't a >comp.sys.mac.energizer.bunny is that the Energizer Bunny was transient. >So is the issue of a 32 bit clean ROM upgrade for the SE/30 (I hope, I hope). >Granted, the lifespan of interest in the HP48 is longer than for any Arnie >movie; it's still too short a time, for too small an audience, to justify >a separate newsgroup, judged by the standards of other newsgroups. How transient do you want to get, when there is still extensive support and publication for one of its decade-old ancestors, the HP-41? The HP-48 is not going away for years, at least, given HP's standard methods of calculator improvement. It still has at least two more generations to go before it is replaced by something far superior again. Two-three years is not transient, especially for the net, and even then the old versions don't go just dry up and go away. Witness the HP-28. The too small an audience argument falters when a comparison of the HP48 volume in the comp.sys.handhelds group is made to most other separate newsgroups, especially the often lethargic computer groups. >One person complains he's tired of pushing the "n" key. One wonders whether he >also advocates the total revamping of the New York Times on the grounds that >he doesn't want to read every article in the paper and is tired of flipping >pages. If you could skim a newsgroup as fast as you could skim a paper, I doubt there would be any complaining. Unless everyone suddenly starts making much better use of the "Subject:" fields, however, it's not going to happen. >Me, I'm tired of these half-a**ed attempts to rearrange the heirarchy. Then ignore it. -- Standard disclaimer applies, you legalistic hacks. | Ron Dippold
kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) (05/11/91)
In article <1991May10.145918.4830@rodan.acs.syr.edu> rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes: >One more person cries out for sanity. One person's sanity is another's.... >The HP48 is transient. >Granted, the lifespan of interest in the HP48 is longer than for any Arnie >movie; it's still too short a time, for too small an audience, to justify >a separate newsgroup, judged by the standards of other newsgroups. This does not seem to be the case. Last year we had a something.something.twin- peaks. It was very busy for about six months and then when interest in TP declined, the group went away. Michael -- Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on kaufman | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die. Roy Batty
streeter@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Kenneth B Streeter) (05/13/91)
In article <1991May10.145918.4830@rodan.acs.syr.edu> rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes: >The HP48 is transient. The reason there isn't a rec.arts.sflovers.total.recall >is that "Total Recall" was transient.... >Granted, the lifespan of interest in the HP48 is longer than for any Arnie >movie; it's still too short a time, for too small an audience, to justify >a separate newsgroup, judged by the standards of other newsgroups. I must have missed the smilies in this article... The HP48 (like the HP41 before it) will be discussed for YEARS. It is nowhere near as transient as you suggest. Actually, out of all the handhelds currently discussed in this group, it will probably be the one to persist the longest. What really distinguishes the HP48 from the other machines discussed in this group is the thriving discussion of all aspects of the machine, including the exchange of machine-specific code. Clearly, there is also a whole new genre of "handheld" machines arriving, NOW -- the MSDOS "palmtops." Where will discussion for these go? The user-community, applications, and items-to-be-discussed are radically different for the HP-calc crowd and the MSDOS palmtop crowd (including the HP95). A split of some sort is definitely necessary... this discussion should hopefully determine where it should be. -- Kenneth B. Streeter | ARPA: streeter@im.lcs.mit.edu MIT LCS, Room NE43-350 | UUCP: ...!uunet!im.lcs.mit.edu!streeter 545 Technology Square | (617) 253-2614 (work) Cambridge, MA 02139 | (617) 225-2249 (home)
greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) (05/14/91)
Could you please use more descriptive subject lines for those of us in
news.groups? Thanks.
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In article <1991May10.145918.4830@rodan.acs.syr.edu> rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) writes: > One person complains he's tired of pushing the "n" key. One wonders whether > he also advocates the total revamping of the New York Times on the grounds > that he doesn't want to read every article in the paper and is tired of > flipping pages. > Me, I'm tired of these half-a**ed attempts to rearrange the heirarchy. You can always hit the 'n' key. Or maybe The Times should remove their editorial section? 8-P Devon