[comp.sys.intel] Inexpensive 386 systems

paula@bcsaic.UUCP (Paul Allen) (02/14/89)

After months of research, I believe that I've found two 386 systems
that come close to satisfying my requirements.  The characteristics
I've been looking for include: inexpensive; fast; reliable; 32-bit
memory expandable to 16M.  I haven't seen magazine reviews on either of
these machines, so I'm wondering if anyone in netland has experience
with them.  The descriptions that follow are from ads and telephone
conversations with salesmen.

System 'A':
Vendor: QIC Research (800) 843-0806
Cpu: 20Mhz 386, 387 socket
Memory: interleaved (80ns page-mode 1Mb drams) 1Mb on motherboard
	2 32-bit slots for optional 8Mb cards that must be populated
	in 2Mb increments.
I/O: 1 parallel, 2 serial
Disk: 1.2 floppy, 72M Micropolis, Omti 1:1 controller
Video: hercules compatible monochrome
Price: $2984 with 1M and above configuration; empty 8M card +$199
	(Microprocessors Unlimited has 80ns page-mode drams for $35)
Warrantee: 30 day moneyback, 1 yr parts+labor, first year on-site
	service for +$40

System 'B':
Vendor: CompuAdd (800) 627-1967
Cpu: 20MHz 3386, 387 socket, Weitek socket
Memory: Cache (uses 82385), four sockets for 1M or 4M simms (I didn't
	record the speed)
I/O: 1 parallel, 2 serial on motherboard
Disk: 1.2 floppy, 80M Seagate, WD 1003WA2 1:3 controller, IDE
	(Integrated Drive Electronics) interface built-in but not used
	due to current prohibitive cost of drives.
Video: hercules compatible monochrome
Price: $3095 with 1M and above configuration; 4M simms $1699, 
	Microprocessors Unlimited has 1M 100ns simms for $360
Warrantee: 30 day moneyback, 1 yr parts+labor, first year carry-in maint
	contract: +$130

From reports I've seen on the net, both of these companies enjoy good
reputations.  The QIC machine would perhaps be hampered a bit by its
lack of a cache, but then the slow WD1003 is the only controller
CompuAdd sells.  The man at QIC claims that QIC makes his machine,
although various net reports have spoken of QIC as a re-seller of Everex
systems.  The QIC machine described above doesn't match their most
recent ad in the Feb. BYTE.  This suggests that the machine they're
trying to sell me is fairly new, but I haven't asked that question.
The CompuAdd system is one of four new high-end 386 and 286 machines
that were apparently first announced in a catalog I got from them in the
last month.  The CompuAdd salesman claimed that the new systems were
designed by CompuAdd, but actually manufactured by somebody else.  (He
didn't specify, and I neglected to ask.)

So, has anybody got experience with these companies (or better yet,
experience with these particular machines!) that they can pass on?
Does any of the above information raise a big red flag for you?
If so, please send email.  I'll summarize in a week or so.

Thanks!

Paul Allen

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