jeffh@weycord.WEYCO.COM (08/01/88)
Ya know, I've been playing around with the 386 instruction set and frankly- IT SUCKS! The MC680xx instruction set is far better than this INTEL bullshit! I guess I didn't realize how easy 16 general purpose registers are to use. I cannot beleive that INTEL chips made it as far as they have! Give me a break- does anyone at INTEL understand micro-processor design or has IBM stuck it to us once again? Well, I sure hope someone out there can give me a reason why INTEL is even in business. DISCLAIMER- I sure do think it's true; but, I could be wrong! -- Jeff (Spectra Software) Harrell hpubvwa!weycord!jeffh (206) 927-9268
davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) (08/04/88)
In article <5530007@weycord.WEYCO.COM> jeffh@weycord.WEYCO.COM writes: | Ya know, I've been playing around with the 386 instruction set and | frankly- IT SUCKS! The MC680xx instruction set is far better than | this INTEL bullshit! I guess I didn't realize how easy 16 general | purpose registers are to use. About every four months someone decides that God gave him/her a vision about Intel vs. Motorola, and a mandate to tell everyone about it. | Well, I sure hope someone out there can give me a reason why INTEL | is even in business. Several: a) most of us run applications, we don't type the opcodes in by hand, or even program in assembler much any more. ie. we don't care about the instruction set, just the cost of getting the job done, in money and time. b) one of the side effects of the Intel instruction set is that about 50% of the codes (register to register moves and operations, and short junps) are 1 byte smaller than the Motorola set. Therefore compilers are easier for the Motorola i/s, code is smaller for the Intel i/s. Smaller code uses less disk, loads faster, keeps more instructions in cache, etc. Other comments: a) most of us have been able to make our own decisions for a while now, and didn't ask for your opinion. b) this has been beaten to death before. c) The only orthogonal i/s is the NS32xxx series, none of these address and arithmetic things, any register for any reason! d) I doubt that ten people on the entire net give a rat's ass what you think about this (maybe about anything). e) this discussion will die in about five weeks. f) Why post this to the xenix group in the first place? Since Xenix runs on Intel and Motorola, what was your purpose, other than you thought we were all so dumb that we hadn't noticed that the two i/s are diferent. g) to prove your importance and wit you will probably reply to this on the net, complaining about each point, and criticising the indentation, grammar, and spelling when you can't find some way to misunderstand what I said and then disagree. See {d}. -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me