kinmonthprep@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) (12/02/88)
(1) Is all the "Imagen" stuff that comes with SCO Xenix useful for anything? I've asked around the University and have found only one person of even claims to have heard of the company (okay, so it is an agricultural school). I haven't been able to find anything that looks like it might use Imagen output although we've got a veritable wharehouse of different laser printers on campus. (2) Why does SCO supply an ancient version of troff with drivers for great devices like model 33 teletypes? Is this because they make more money on their Lyrix word processor?
davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) (12/03/88)
In article <3336@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> kinmonthprep@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes: | (1) | Is all the "Imagen" stuff that comes with SCO Xenix useful | for anything? I've asked around the University and have | found only one person of even claims to have heard of the | company (okay, so it is an agricultural school). Works fine on an Imagen printer. I don't recall any other proprietary format being portable, either. | (2) | Why does SCO supply an ancient version of troff with | drivers for great devices like model 33 teletypes? Is this | because they make more money on their Lyrix word processor? I believe that the version of troff supplied is the latest. You have perhaps confused this with 'ditroff' which is a diferrent product with similar function. They supply it because it is what they have as a licensed product. For about the same money you can get eroff from Elan and have a product which goes to your LaserJet printers. I don't know about Postscript, but someone will indoubtedly post an answer ;-) My biggest complaint about the nroff is that when you order 386 "complete Xenix" you get the nroff compiled for the 8086. Needless to say performance is really bad. I was very unhappy with my version for speed, although it does what I want eventually. I use troff as my idle daemon for anything big, set the nice to 19 and let it crawl in the background. -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
cacsc222%mx@csun.edu (12/11/88)
In article <3336@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> kinmonthprep@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes:
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And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1
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...!sm.unisys.com!csun!mx!cacsc222bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) (12/12/88)
In article <1761@csun.edu> cacsc222@mx.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) writes: >In article <3336@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> kinmonthprep@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes: >[stuff about troff deleted] > >And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1 It was posted to comp.sources.misc a while back, it's called JetRoff. I have not used it with Xenix but can't think of any reason why it would not work. It's shareware and is a postprocessor troff->HP LJ. If you lack troff itself then take a look ar Elan. The troff you got with Xenix will work OK but you lack a couple of the DWB 2.0 tools, pic and grap as I recall. -- Bill Kennedy usenet {killer,att,cs.utexas.edu,sun!daver}!ssbn!bill internet bill@ssbn.WLK.COM
chip@vector.UUCP (Chip Rosenthal) (12/12/88)
In article <1761@csun.edu> cacsc222@mx.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) writes: >And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1 The problem is that SCO's troff is the old troff and not the device independant ditroff. Old troff is hardwired for C/A/T typesetter output. This makes it difficult to implement other devices. Some companies have done this. I've used QMS's qtroff, and Imagen has itroff. For those of us stuck with old troff, I see three alternatives: (1) Get a translator program. For example, SSC sells a "cat2dit" program for $295 ($495 for source). Once there, you can use something like "jetroff". I haven't done any of this, so no guarantees. (2) Junk it and buy the troff package from somebody like Elan. (3) Stick with nroff. I've been using the third alternative. I've hacked together some driver tables for the LJ, and this has been good enough for most of the things I do. If anybody is interested in my "tablj.c" nroff driver, you are welcome to a copy. -- Chip Rosenthal chip@vector.UUCP | Choke me in the shallow water Dallas Semiconductor 214-450-5337 | before I get too deep.
jlo@elan.UUCP (Jeff Lo) (12/13/88)
In article <1761@csun.edu> cacsc222@mx.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) writes: >And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1 Yes! Elan Computer Group, Inc. sells a package called EROFF which is the AT&T Documenter's WorkBench (DWB), including device independent troff, nroff, tbl, eqn, pic, grap, macros, etc., plus bug fixes and enhancements including bitmap graphics inclusion, printer code (including PostScript) inclusion, and drivers for the HP LaserJet line of printers and PostScript printers (an Imagen driver is also available). Automatic HP Soft Font downloading is done for the LaserJets. Downloadable Adobe PostScript fonts may also be used. DWB and the printer drivers are also available separately. All of this is available on dozens of different UNIX machines and under MS-DOS. There is also a $99 nroff-only package available for MS-DOS. Our soft copy screen previewer EVIEW is available for Suns under SunView, many systems under X-Windows V10.R4, and support for X11 is in progress. All of DWB 2.0 and EROFF's enhancements are supported by EVIEW. Please write or call for more information. Elan Computer Group, Inc. 410 Cambridge Avenue, Suite A Palo Alto, CA 94306 (415) 322-2450 ..!{ames,hplabs,uunet}!elan!sales -- Jeff Lo ..!{ames,hplabs,uunet}!elan!jlo Elan Computer Group, Inc. (415) 322-2450
rick@pcrat.UUCP (Rick Richardson) (12/13/88)
In article <659@vector.UUCP> chip@vector.UUCP (Chip Rosenthal) writes: >The problem is that SCO's troff is the old troff and not the device >independant ditroff. Old troff is hardwired for C/A/T typesetter output. >For those of us stuck with old troff, I see three alternatives: >(1) Get a translator program. For example, SSC sells a "cat2dit" program > for $295 ($495 for source). Once there, you can use something like > "jetroff". I haven't done any of this, so no guarantees. Greg Sassenrath recently posted 'cat2dit' to comp.text (11/16/88). I haven't tried it, but I did snag a copy. I would be interested in knowing how well it works, with JetRoff as the postprocessor. >(2) Junk it and buy the troff package from somebody like Elan. Urban Applied Science in Newark, NJ sells DWB 2.0 for Xenix, I think, and the price is in the $200-$300 range. The number is (201) 242-7230 and (800) 872-8763. John Roseman at UAS has told me that he has used JetRoff as the postprocessor with good success. So add another $50-$100 for JetRoff and you've got a complete DWB package for lots less than what Elan charges. >(3) Stick with nroff. Blecch! -- Rick Richardson | JetRoff "di"-troff to LaserJet Postprocessor|uunet!pcrat!dry2 PC Research,Inc.| Mail: uunet!pcrat!jetroff; For anon uucp do:|for Dhrystone 2 uunet!pcrat!rick| uucp jetroff!~jetuucp/file_list ~nuucp/. |submission forms. jetroff Wk2200-0300,Sa,Su ACU {2400,PEP} 12013898963 "" \d\r\d ogin: jetuucp
wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (12/13/88)
In article <659@vector.UUCP> chip@vector.UUCP (Chip Rosenthal) writes: >In article <1761@csun.edu> cacsc222@mx.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) writes: >>And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1 > >The problem is that SCO's troff is the old troff and not the device >independant ditroff. ... > >For those of us stuck with old troff, I see three alternatives: > >(1) Get a translator program. For example, SSC sells a "cat2dit" program > for $295 ($495 for source). Once there, you can use something like > "jetroff". I haven't done any of this, so no guarantees. There was a cat2dit program posted to the net a while back. In addition, there is a quite comprehensive otrff->LJ program which also was posted to the net during the past few months. Check with your nearest archive site. -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 DOMAIN: dcs!wnp@killer.dallas.tx.us TLX: 910-380-0585 EES PLANO UD
romwa@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Mark Dornfeld) (12/14/88)
In article <659@vector.UUCP> chip@vector.UUCP (Chip Rosenthal) writes: >In article <1761@csun.edu> cacsc222@mx.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) writes: >>And does anyone have a TROFF driver for an HP Laserjet? This is for SCO 2.2.1 > >The problem is that SCO's troff is the old troff and not the device >independant ditroff. Old troff is hardwired for C/A/T typesetter output. >This makes it difficult to implement other devices. Some companies have >done this. I've used QMS's qtroff, and Imagen has itroff. > >For those of us stuck with old troff, I see three alternatives: > Here's a fourth alternative: SoftQuad Publishing software. This is troff and all the preprocessors rewritten and it is available for Xenix with a number of different output drivers. I've been using it for a year and a half for some demanding work and have found it to be very, very good. SoftQuad 720 Spadina Ave Toronto, Ontario Canada M5S 2T9 416-963-8337 Mark T. Dornfeld Royal Ontario Museum 100 Queens Park Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M5S 2C6 mark@utgpu!rom - or - romwa@utgpu