[comp.unix.xenix] Reasonable minimum disk capacities for sco xenix

paterra@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Frank C. Paterra) (01/06/89)

Hi there Netlanders!!

My company (after much prodding from me) has decided that we should use
our 16mhz, IBM PS/2 Model 80 as a xenix system.  Currently we have one
77 meg drive and 2 meg of ram.  The system will have to support ~10
users, but most of the time ~6 will be using it concurrently and the
major application will be Microsoft Word.  Now that I got the company
to sign up to it I have some concerns.

	- How much disk space should we allow for the os including
	  swap?  We are buying the full system (os + text package +
	  development package)

	- We will be initially adding 2 megs of ram, and will be using
	  an intelligent communications board (probably arnet).  Will
	  the Model 80 give us enough power?

	- I proposed Wyse 60 or IBM 3151 terminals because they were
	  listed as supported by Microsoft Word.  Whats the downside
	  of these and what other terminals should we consider?
	
	- What do you suppose I forgot?  This is the first non-pc/mac
	  system we will have in our office and if it doesn't fly too
	  well the non-computer engineers will have a fit, so if there
	  are any standard pit falls that I might have to avoid, I'd
	  really like to know them.


Thanks in advance for your help!
Frank Paterra
paterra@xanth.odu.cs.edu

debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) (01/07/89)

In article <7064@xanth.cs.odu.edu> paterra@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Frank C. Paterra) writes:
}
}Hi there Netlanders!!
}
}My company (after much prodding from me) has decided that we should use
}our 16mhz, IBM PS/2 Model 80 as a xenix system.  Currently we have one
}77 meg drive and 2 meg of ram.  The system will have to support ~10
}users, but most of the time ~6 will be using it concurrently and the
}major application will be Microsoft Word.  Now that I got the company
}to sign up to it I have some concerns.
}
}	- How much disk space should we allow for the os including
}	  swap?  We are buying the full system (os + text package +
}	  development package)

A few megabytes should suffice in the root filesystem as most of the stuff
resides in /usr. The system will ask you for a size, and you can give it
as much more as you would like in /tmp (unless you make /tmp a separate
file system which is a good idea in general, but it is not done by default
in Xenix). Then I would suggest at least 20Mbytes for /usr as you will be
installing MS-WORD too.
How much swap you need depends on your ram memory. You need at least a
couple of megabytes in any case (4 to 8 will do i would say), assuming you
avoid swapping and paging by having enough memory. The amount of memory
and swap space will determine the size of the biggest process you can run
but you won't be needing that much.

>	- We will be initially adding 2 megs of ram, and will be using
>	  an intelligent communications board (probably arnet).  Will
>	  the Model 80 give us enough power?

The 4 Meg may be tight. Probably not the first day, but as you start to
do more... You certainly will not be able to use vp/ix when several users
are using Xenix. I think as ram-prices come down you should work towards
getting 8 meg. With only 4meg you probably want a bigger swap space (like
10 Meg)

>	- I proposed Wyse 60 or IBM 3151 terminals because they were
>	  listed as supported by Microsoft Word.  Whats the downside
>	  of these and what other terminals should we consider?

I think any supported terminal will do. I wouldn't trust words though.
Try one and find out.

>	- What do you suppose I forgot?  This is the first non-pc/mac
>	  system we will have in our office and if it doesn't fly too
>	  well the non-computer engineers will have a fit, so if there
>	  are any standard pit falls that I might have to avoid, I'd
>	  really like to know them.

What you forgot is disk space and speed. For a 6 to 10 user system I
would suggest moving to a fast 300 Meg ESDI drive soon. Space is always
short, especially if you want a reasonably sized /tmp and swap. Xenix
will take about 20Mbytes I would think. Add 10Mbytes of swap and 15Mbytes
for / and /tmp and you only have 32 Meg to actually use on your 77Meg
drive... Access time is also important. There exist several drives with
<20msec access times.

An important thing to remember is that you DO want a /u file system for
storing the user-files. This has to do with the position of the swap space
on the disk. (You want the swap space somewhere in the middle.)

Paul.
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mikes@ncoast.UUCP (Mike Squires) (01/13/89)

In article <8689@alice.UUCP> debra@alice.UUCP () writes:
>In article <7064@xanth.cs.odu.edu> paterra@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Frank C. Paterra) writes:
>}
>}Hi there Netlanders!!
>}
>}My company (after much prodding from me) has decided that we should use
>}our 16mhz, IBM PS/2 Model 80 as a xenix system.  Currently we have one
>}77 meg drive and 2 meg of ram.  The system will have to support ~10
>}users, but most of the time ~6 will be using it concurrently and the
>}major application will be Microsoft Word.  Now that I got the company
>}to sign up to it I have some concerns.
>}
One article reviewing systems subsceptible to the 386/387 interface bugsaid
that the PS 2/80 early production was especially likely to crash.  This is
apparently fixed by getting a D-step 386 or by buying Bell Technologies
patch board that fits under the 386.