[comp.unix.xenix] Ideal PC terminal program for use with Xenix/Unix?

brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) (09/27/89)

Any recommendations on a terminal program that would be good for
using a PC as a terminal to Xenix or Unix 3.2?

The following things would be desirable
	a) speed -- support 9600 bps on a PC.  (19.2 would be nice,
		but I have yet to see one that will do this on
		a PC, other than by lots of buffering and ctrl-s)

	b) multiscreens
		-- the program should handle multiple screens, with
		   cursor and attributes preserved over the screens,
		   and a set of handy screen switching keys for use with
		   the mscreen program.  (Ideally, one should be able
		   to define ALT-F1 etc. to do this.)

	c) scancode mode -- like a WYSE, so that it can be used with
		vp/ix etc.

	d) Some efficient smart mode that has a standard termcap.  While
	   ANSI would be nice, I would rather have a usable non-ansi that
	   goes 19.2 or 9600 than an ANSI that goes more slowly.

	e) The ability to map \ to shift for those good feeling, but
	   badly designed PC keyboards.
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davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (09/27/89)

In article <22233@looking.on.ca>, brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes:

|  The following things would be desirable
|  	a) speed -- support 9600 bps on a PC.  (19.2 would be nice,
|  		but I have yet to see one that will do this on
|  		a PC, other than by lots of buffering and ctrl-s)

  That's the easy one... standard Kermit does this very well. People
claim to go 38.4 without flow control, I can only speak to 19.2, but I
haven't had any problems on a "real" PC (4.77MHz).
|  
|  	b) multiscreens

|  	c) scancode mode -- like a WYSE, so that it can be used with
|  		vp/ix etc.

  At this point you may want to consider either a terminal designed for
the job or one of those neat optical fiber links which allow you to have
a DOS and Xenix session running via hotkey.
|  
|  	d) Some efficient smart mode that has a standard termcap.  While
|  	   ANSI would be nice, I would rather have a usable non-ansi that
|  	   goes 19.2 or 9600 than an ANSI that goes more slowly.

  Kermit.
|  
|  	e) The ability to map \ to shift for those good feeling, but

  No idea.
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chuckb@hounix.UUCP (Chuck Bentley) (10/02/89)

In article <562@crdos1.crd.ge.COM>, davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes:
> In article <22233@looking.on.ca>, brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes:
> 
> |  The following things would be desirable
> |  	a) speed -- support 9600 bps on a PC.  (19.2 would be nice,
> |  		but I have yet to see one that will do this on
> |  		a PC, other than by lots of buffering and ctrl-s)

Easily accomplished.

> .
> .
> |  
> |  	b) multiscreens
> 
> |  	c) scancode mode -- like a WYSE, so that it can be used with
> |  		vp/ix etc.

Doesn't need vp/ix.  A unix version exists.

> |  
> |  	d) Some efficient smart mode that has a standard termcap.  While
> |  	   ANSI would be nice, I would rather have a usable non-ansi that
> |  	   goes 19.2 or 9600 than an ANSI that goes more slowly.

Emulates VT100 and still does high speed.

> |  
> |  	e) The ability to map \ to shift for those good feeling, but
> 

A program to modify DOS to do this is included with ZCOMM, a shareware
program that has most all the features you mention.

I use Pro-Yam (ZCOMM's big brother) on my AT under both DOS and XENIX. 
I started out with ZCOMM and liked it so much I moved up to Pro-Yam.  I
can't say enough good things about either product.

The author, Chuck Forsberg has been refining this since CP/M days
(before DOS and the IBM PC). 

You can contact him at caf@omen.UUCP.  I just saw an article from him a
moment ago in comp.unix.xenix, so I know he monitors this area.  How
about it Chuck, isn't it time to let these people know about
Pro-Yam/ZCOMM again?

By the way, I'm just a satisified customer, not a principal or employee.

		Chuck...

larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) (10/04/89)

> I use Pro-Yam (ZCOMM's big brother) on my AT under both DOS and XENIX. 
> I started out with ZCOMM and liked it so much I moved up to Pro-Yam.  I
> can't say enough good things about either product.
> 
> By the way, I'm just a satisified customer, not a principal or employee.

Hi Chuck - I also use Pro-Yam under Xenix 386 daily to communicate with
several remote sites - and have found Pro-Yam to include almost every 
feature one could ever want.   The manual is cryptic after coming from
a DOS world - but it opens up your eyes to the power behind the product.

Larry


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bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) (10/05/89)

In article <111040@nstar.UUCP>, larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) writes:
> > I use Pro-Yam (ZCOMM's big brother) on my AT under both DOS and XENIX. 
> > I started out with ZCOMM and liked it so much I moved up to Pro-Yam.  I
> > can't say enough good things about either product.
> I also use Pro-Yam under Xenix 386 daily to communicate with
> several remote sites - and have found Pro-Yam to include almost every 
> feature one could ever want.   The manual is cryptic after coming from
> a DOS world - but it opens up your eyes to the power behind the product.
> Larry Snyder                            uucp:iuvax!ndcheg!ndmath!nstar!larry

I use TERM from Century Software, primarily because I need to support a
variety of systems.   I have TERM running on:
1. IBM PC - PCDOS
2. 386 PC - Xenix386
3. B28    - BTOS
4. Mac    - McIntosh
5. VAX    - VMS

I think that there are others as well.  But at least I only have to run
and learn one system, and it is very good one.
bruce
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emuleomo@yes.rutgers.edu (Emuleomo) (10/07/89)

E-mail will be appreciated.

Thanx

--Emuleomo O.O. (emuleomo@yes.rutgers.edu)
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david@oldcolo.UUCP (David Hughes Jr) (10/11/89)

Where does one find Pro-Yam for DOS and UNIX?  Pub. Dom. or purchase,
and from where.

tx,  david hughes

caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg) (10/15/89)

In article <[243.4]unix;1@oldcolo.UUCP> david@oldcolo.UUCP (David Hughes Jr) writes:
:Where does one find Pro-Yam for DOS and UNIX?  Pub. Dom. or purchase,
:and from where.

Professional-YAM (Yet Another Modem) sells for $139.00, either DOS,
Unix or Xenix 286/386 flavor.

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Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
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