fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) (10/17/89)
Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them will defragment a filesystem? -- Fred Fierling uunet!van-bc!mplex!fff Tel: 604 875-1461 Fax: 604 875-9029 Microplex Systems Ltd, 265 East 1st Avenue Vancouver, BC, V5T 1A7, Canada
jbayer@ispi.UUCP (Jonathan Bayer) (10/17/89)
fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) writes: >Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? >Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them >will defragment a filesystem? You also have to rebuild the free list before restoring the files. JB -- Jonathan Bayer Intelligent Software Products, Inc. (201) 245-5922 500 Oakwood Ave. jbayer@ispi.COM Roselle Park, NJ 07204
karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) (10/18/89)
In article <359@mplex.UUCP> fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) writes: >Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? > >Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them >will defragment a filesystem? I have taken the recently-posted PACKDISK program, mangled it slightly, and made it work fantastically for SCO XENIX V/386 2.3 It makes a BIG difference. From 65% fragmented to 1.2% typically. Not bad. It works ok, requires about 2 hours to run on a 3/4 full 90MB filesystem (which is the nastiest test we've tossed at it so far). It should work for 80286 systems as well, but no guarantees. The code has been somewhat massaged from what was posted. You can get it off our dial-in system. No anonymous uucp is provided, unfortunately (we run a strange uucp and can't allow it; it's not HDB). You can, however, download it from our database areas. To get in, dial the number in my .sig below, type "new" when asked for a login name, and sign up. Then join the conference "dl.unix" with the command "j dl.unix". Read message #3, say "attach" at the prompt, tell the system to queue the file, then type "download" to send it. You need one of (1) Zmodem, (2) Xmodem, (3) Ymodem or (4) Kermit receive capability to get the file on your end. Enjoy. No warranties, but it does work for me. -- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl) Public Access Data Line: [+1 312 566-8911], Voice: [+1 312 566-8910] Macro Computer Solutions, Inc. "Quality Solutions at a Fair Price"
bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) (10/18/89)
In article <359@mplex.UUCP>, fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) writes: > Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? > > Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them > will defragment a filesystem? > -- > Fred Fierling uunet!van-bc!mplex!fff Tel: 604 875-1461 Fax: 604 875-9029 > Microplex Systems Ltd, 265 East 1st Avenue Vancouver, BC, V5T 1A7, Canada While it is true that rm and restore from tape will unfrag a disk to a large extent, the only way to do it correctly that I know of is with a utility from the people that sell CTAR. (compressed tar) Microlite Corporation 1021 Sutherland Street Pittsburg, PA 15204 (412) 771-4901 By the way, CTAR is available for Unix/Xenix/Aix platforms.., and they also have an inode fiddler for Xenix/SCO Unix bruce -- ========================================================================= Bruce A. McIntyre, McIntyre Designs, Inc. VOICE(215)322-1895 143 Bridgetown Pike, Langhorne, Pa. 19047 DATA (215)357-2915 {wells|lgnp1}!mdi386!bruce bruce@mdi386 tbit+
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (10/19/89)
In article <1187@ispi.UUCP>, jbayer@ispi.UUCP (Jonathan Bayer) writes: | You also have to rebuild the free list before restoring the files. I highly commend just doing mkfs on the partition. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
iv@hal6000.UUCP (10/19/89)
/---- Written 7:37 pm Oct 16, 1989 by mplex!fff in comp.unix.xenix ---------- | "Xenix filesystem fragmentation" | Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them | will defragment a filesystem? Well, actually, if you: 0> save all files, 1> rm all files, 2> fsck -S, 3> restore it will, but for all that work you might as well dump / mkfs / restor the filesystem, which will achieve the same effect and be faster with fewer steps too. Besides, if you use tar to save / restore the files with, you will lose all your directory permissions! | Fred Fierling uunet!van-bc!mplex!fff Tel: 604 875-1461 Fax: 604 875-9029 | Microplex Systems Ltd, 265 East 1st Avenue Vancouver, BC, V5T 1A7, Canada \---- End of text from hal6000:comp.unix.xenix ------------------------------- [This information was provided by an individual and is not nor should be construed as being provided by Radio Shack or Tandy Corporation. Radio Shack and/or Tandy Corporation have no obligation to support the information provided. The author will, however, cheerfully accept mail. This note will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Good luck, %s.] ---- IV (aka John Elliott IV) Domain: iv@hal6000.Tandy.COM Tandy Systems Software UUCP: ...!texbell!letni!hal6000!iv 900 Two Tandy Center or: ...!decvax!microsoft!trsvax!hal6000!iv Fort Worth, TX 76102 Phone: 817/390-2701; 9:30am-6:00pm CST, M-F
bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey) (10/20/89)
In article <359@mplex.UUCP> fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) writes: >Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? I know that MicroLite Corp was working on a utility like you mentioned. They were showing off literature at the SCO Forum in August. I don't think they have actually shipped the product yet. What we do, is use CTAR (by MicroLite) and backup the entire system, and using their CTAR boot disk, reformat the drive and reinstall from the backup tape all files. This will in effect unfragment the disk. A little bit of the long way. Although you have to consider, that true de-fragmenting utilities can run for LONG periods. We are talking possible hours to run. < MicroLite Corp - Tom Podnar - (412) 771-4901 > .. P.S. We have no affiliation with MicroLite other than using their products as resellers. .. -- .. Computer Consulting Service .. Bob Willey .. .. P.O. Drawer 1690 .. uunet!consult!bob .. .. Easton, Maryland 21601 .. (301) 820-4670 .. ...............................................................
kayvan@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) (10/20/89)
>>>>> "Karl" == Karl Denninger <karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM> writes: Karl> In article <359@mplex.UUCP> fff@mplex.UUCP (Fred Fierling) writes: >Does anyone know of program that will defragment a Xenix filesystem? > >Is it true that rm'ing all files in a filesystem and then restoring them >will defragment a filesystem? Karl> I have taken the recently-posted PACKDISK program, mangled it Karl> slightly, and made it work fantastically for SCO XENIX V/386 2.3 Karl> It makes a BIG difference. From 65% fragmented to 1.2% Karl> typically. Not bad. If someone gets Karl's version of PACKDISK who has anonymous UUCP set up on their machine or who has internet (ftp) access, please make this available to the rest of us?? Thanks! ---Kayvan -- Kayvan Sylvan @ Transact Software, Inc. -*- Los Altos, CA (415) 961-6112 Internet: kayvan@Transact.COM -*- UUCP: ...!{apple,pyramid,mips}!mrspoc!kayvan = Interested in story telling group? Mail yarn-spinners-request@transact.com =
simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) (10/20/89)
I've downloaded 'packdisk' and tried it out. It works fine on an AT
running Sco 286 2.2.3 (?). I'll set it up for anonymous ftp from
g.ms.uky.edu [128.163.128.7] tonite. Don't look for it until Saturday.
It should be in the '/outgoing' directory when you ftp it.
--
Simon Gales@The University of Kentucky
simon@ms.uky.edu | 'Fate... protects fools, little children,
simon@UKMA.BITNET | and ships named Enterprise.'
{rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon | - Riker, ST:TNGdaveb@elaited.i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) (10/21/89)
In article <160@mdi386.UUCP> bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) writes: |While it is true that rm and restore from tape will unfrag a disk to a |large extent, the only way to do it correctly that I know of is with a |utility from the people that sell CTAR. (compressed tar) So will tar/mkfs/tar, and they're *included* with Xenix. -- Dave Burton uunet!ism780c!laidbak!daveb
root@medsys.uucp (sysop) (10/21/89)
kayvan@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes: >If someone gets Karl's version of PACKDISK who has anonymous UUCP set >up on their machine or who has internet (ftp) access, please make this >available to the rest of us?? Here is how to set up your UNIX system to connect with this system (medsys) via uucp. Place the following entry in your /usr/lib/uucp/L.sys or /usr/lib/uucp/Systems file with an editor (vi): medsys Any ACU 2400 16152883957 "" "" ogin:-""-ogin:-""-ogin: nuucp ssword: \r The above entry is for 2400. For 19200 bps operation use the entry below: medsys Any ACU 19200 16152883957 "" "" ogin:-""-ogin:-""-ogin: nuucp ssword: \r You can retrieve files with this command: uucp medsys!/u/xbbs/scoxenix/packdisk.tar.Z /usr/spool/uucppublic >Thanks! You're welcome. -- __ __| __ __ LaVerne Olney -- Med-Systems |/^\/^\ /__) / | (__ \ / (__ Medical Office Management Software | | | \__ \__| ___) \/ ___) Kingsport, TN 37660 U.S.A. Unix BBS: 615-288-3957 / UUCP: uunet!medsys!laverne
sl@van-bc.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) (10/22/89)
In article <12991@s.ms.uky.edu> simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) writes: >I've downloaded 'packdisk' and tried it out. It works fine on an AT >running Sco 286 2.2.3 (?). I'll set it up for anonymous ftp from >g.ms.uky.edu [128.163.128.7] tonite. Don't look for it until Saturday. > >It should be in the '/outgoing' directory when you ftp it. If I can get it here I'll put it in van-bc's uucppublic directory tonight. 604-939-4782 PEP 604-939-4756 1200/2400 login: nuucp password: nuucp van-bc!~packdisk or van-bc!~packdisk.Z FTP access also available via van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca [128.189.233.155]. -- Stuart.Lynne@wimsey.bc.ca ubc-cs!van-bc!sl 604-937-7532(voice) 604-939-4768(fax)
rdgreenall@lily.waterloo.edu (10/22/89)
In article <1989Oct20.205754.18669@i88.isc.com> daveb@i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) writes: >In article <160@mdi386.UUCP> bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) writes: >|While it is true that rm and restore from tape will unfrag a disk to a >|large extent, the only way to do it correctly that I know of is with a >|utility from the people that sell CTAR. (compressed tar) > >So will tar/mkfs/tar, and they're *included* with Xenix. >-- But lets not forget, that wonderful feature/bug in XENIX tar where it refuses to back up empty directories. Use pdtar as long as your filesystem is not longer than 1 tape instead. Richard Greenall
root@conexch.UUCP (Larry Dighera) (10/22/89)
In article <KAYVAN.89Oct19231959@mrspoc.Transact.COM> kayvan@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes: >If someone gets Karl's version of PACKDISK who has anonymous UUCP set >up on their machine or who has internet (ftp) access, please make this >available to the rest of us?? I went through all the rigmarole to download packdisk.sh from Karl's machine. Anyone desiring to acquire a copy of packdisk via anonymous UUCP will find it available on conexch residing in /usr3/public/packdisk.sh. There's a Systems/L.sys entry in the .signature below. Larry Dighera -- USPS: The Consultants' Exchange, PO Box 12100, Santa Ana, CA 92712 TELE: (714) 842-6348: BBS (N81); (714) 842-5851: Xenix guest account (E71) UUCP: conexch Any ACU 2400 17148425851 ogin:-""-ogin:-""-ogin: nuucp UUCP: ...!uunet!spsd!conexch!root || ...!ccicpg!conexch!root
bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) (10/22/89)
In article <1989Oct20.205754.18669@i88.isc.com>, daveb@elaited.i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) writes: > In article <160@mdi386.UUCP> bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) writes: > |While it is true that rm and restore from tape will unfrag a disk to a > |large extent, the only way to do it correctly that I know of is with a > |utility from the people that sell CTAR. (compressed tar) > So will tar/mkfs/tar, and they're *included* with Xenix. > Dave Burton > uunet!ism780c!laidbak!daveb Regular "tar" will not quite do what you want if you do a new mkfs, because of the way that tar handles special files and directory permissions. While cpio does a little better, there are still some gotchas.. A dump will giv back all of the info, but somehow I don't always trust dump.. On our bigger systems, we use the PCS Flashback (8mm) mirror image device, and that is both correct and fast. To do the clean up, we don't use the mirror image routine of course, because it wouldn't fix the frag problem, but the regular fpio routine is almost as fast, and does handle everything correctly. I have backed up, mkfs'd and restored a 300mb drive in less than an hour this way. bruce -- ========================================================================= Bruce A. McIntyre, McIntyre Designs, Inc. VOICE(215)322-1895 143 Bridgetown Pike, Langhorne, Pa. 19047 DATA (215)357-2915 {wells|lgnp1}!mdi386!bruce bruce@mdi386 tbit+
kory@avatar.UUCP (Kory Hamzeh) (10/24/89)
In article <KAYVAN.89Oct19231959@mrspoc.Transact.COM>, kayvan@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes: > >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Denninger <karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM> writes: > Karl> I have taken the recently-posted PACKDISK program, mangled it > Karl> slightly, and made it work fantastically for SCO XENIX V/386 2.3 > > Karl> It makes a BIG difference. From 65% fragmented to 1.2% > Karl> typically. Not bad. > > If someone gets Karl's version of PACKDISK who has anonymous UUCP set > up on their machine or who has internet (ftp) access, please make this > available to the rest of us?? No, post the sources!!! I and many other people have been waiting along time for something like this. I was to chicken-shit to modify the PACKDISK program my self. PLEASE, post it. Thanks, --kory -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kory Hamzeh UUCP: ..!uunet!psivax!quad1!avatar!kory INTERNET: avatar!kory@quad.com
usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (10/25/89)
From article <1989Oct20.205754.18669@i88.isc.com>, by daveb@elaited.i88.isc.com (Dave Burton): > In article <160@mdi386.UUCP> bruce@mdi386.UUCP (Bruce A. McIntyre) writes: > |While it is true that rm and restore from tape will unfrag a disk to a > |large extent, the only way to do it correctly that I know of is with a > |utility from the people that sell CTAR. (compressed tar) > > So will tar/mkfs/tar, and they're *included* with Xenix. Tar does not backup special device files (ie /dev) and I've some **IX's tar who didn't backup up empty directories. j |%|John Lawitzke, Dale Computer Corp., R&D |%|UUCP: uunet!frith!dale1!jhl Work |%| uunet!frith!dale1!ipecac!jhl Home Inquiring minds just wondering. |%|Internet: jhl@frith.egr.msu.edu
chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) (10/27/89)
According to usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner): >Tar does not backup special device files (ie /dev) and I've >some **IX's tar who didn't backup up empty directories. Get afio from the comp.sources.unix archives. It handles all kinds of files, including device entries. And it's fast. And it requires less backup media for the same amount of backup. And you'll have source code. -- You may redistribute this article only to those who may freely do likewise. Chip Salzenberg at A T Engineering; <chip@ateng.com> or <uunet!ateng!chip> "'Why do we post to Usenet?' Naturally, the answer is, 'To get a response.'" -- Brad "Flame Me" Templeton
djm@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie) (10/27/89)
In article <25476567.13276@ateng.com> chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >According to usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner): >>Tar does not backup special device files (ie /dev) and I've >>some **IX's tar who didn't backup up empty directories. > >Get afio from the comp.sources.unix archives. It handles all kinds of >files, including device entries. And it's fast. And it requires less >backup media for the same amount of backup. And you'll have source code. If you want to use tar format, GNU tar does special files and empty directories right, as well. -- David J. MacKenzie <djm@wam.umd.edu>
marks@mgse.UUCP (Mark Seiffert) (10/29/89)
In article <12991@s.ms.uky.edu> simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) writes: >I've downloaded 'packdisk' and tried it out. It works fine on an AT >running Sco 286 2.2.3 (?). I'll set it up for anonymous ftp from >g.ms.uky.edu [128.163.128.7] tonite. Don't look for it until Saturday. PackDisk and a 286 binary are available from my archive mailer at archive@mgse. Send the following message to get all the files, plus the system help file. The files will come back compressed and uuencoded. - cut here -------------------------------------------------- set uuencode set compress help send other/xenix/packdisk/PackDisk.Z send other/xenix/packdisk/Packdisk.desc send other/xenix/packdisk.Z - cut here -------------------------------------------------- >-- >Simon Gales@The University of Kentucky > simon@ms.uky.edu | 'Fate... protects fools, little children, > simon@UKMA.BITNET | and ships named Enterprise.' > {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon | - Riker, ST:TNG -- Mark Seiffert, Metairie, LA. uucp: rex!mgse!marks bitnet: marks%mgse@REX.CS.TULANE.EDU internet: marks%mgse@rex.cs.tulane.edu