[comp.unix.xenix] SCO UNIX Development

palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) (10/24/89)

  This is kind of a dumb question but what is happening with
  SCO UNIX 3.2 platform?

  Is the development system out?

  What do the owners think of the price/perfomance ratio?

  How many users are on your SCO UNIX system?

  Do they all use the X-windows that comes with it?

  Now that ATT and Sun is going to release UNIX 4.0 real soon is
  SCO going to have a 4.0 release?

  Does Codeview work with the PCC compiler?

  Is the fast file system the same as ISC's?

  A related question is how would you benchmark the two?

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terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) (11/12/89)

In article <914@fiver.UUCP> palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) writes:
>
>  Is the development system out?
The development system is available now.  I am using it, and in general
like it a lot.  It does have some problems, like no floating-point
in CodeView.  Also, the cvtomf dumps core on some GNU Emacs files.  

>
>  What do the owners think of the price/perfomance ratio?
I think it is about the same as SCO XENIX.  UNIX costs more and you get
more.  

>  How many users are on your SCO UNIX system?
Just me.  The performance is DOWN with UNIX.  When something like 
rnews or expire is running in the background, everything else pretty 
much comes to a halt.  I am running the Acer Fast file system with
a track buffered Western Digital disk controller board.  

>  Do they all use the X-windows that comes with it?
Yes, I use it, but you need X windows for DOS and Ethernet to
support X users.  

>  Now that ATT and Sun is going to release UNIX 4.0 real soon is
>  SCO going to have a 4.0 release?
I assume so.  I also assume it will be quite a while before 4.0
materializes.  Look how long it took to get a R3 version of SCO. . .

>
>  Does Codeview work with the PCC compiler?
Nope.  It will only work with x.out files

>
>  Is the fast file system the same as ISC's?
Nope.  It is not the same and I do not know how they compare. 

PS.  It is nice to be back reading c.u.x.  I've been swamped for
about the last month so news went out the window.  

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davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (11/14/89)

In article <602@tah386.manhattan.ks.us>, terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) writes:

|  >  How many users are on your SCO UNIX system?
|  Just me.  The performance is DOWN with UNIX.  When something like 
|  rnews or expire is running in the background, everything else pretty 
|  much comes to a halt.  I am running the Acer Fast file system with
|  a track buffered Western Digital disk controller board.  

  If this is a common problem Xenix may be with us. I was planning to
upgrade in January, but any less performance would be unacceptable. Do
other people find that news bogs the machine?
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paine@rust.dec.com (Willy Paine) (11/15/89)

In article <1603@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> you write:
>In article <602@tah386.manhattan.ks.us>, terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) writes:
>
>|  >  How many users are on your SCO UNIX system?
>|  Just me.  The performance is DOWN with UNIX.  When something like 
>|  rnews or expire is running in the background, everything else pretty 
>|  much comes to a halt.  I am running the Acer Fast file system with
>|  a track buffered Western Digital disk controller board.  
>
>  If this is a common problem Xenix may be with us. I was planning to
>upgrade in January, but any less performance would be unacceptable. Do
>other people find that news bogs the machine?

I used to run C News on Interactive 386 and now I am running Xenix/386
with B News.   I think C News would be much better with busy machine
because this allow to run full news batch on specific time (C News' rnews 
just move batch to in-comming file directory).  If you still want B News
or any News software, I suggest to get newsfeed during night time.  B
News's rnews will push Xenix down on performance but I think there will
be more problem with new SCO Unix and I will install C News instead of 
B News.

I have tested SCO Unix in separate machine and I plan to move this into
busy BBS machine.  My opinion is that SCO Unix is not for everyone.  I
take this because I have alot of experience with System V on the job and
I feel more comfortable with this than Xenix.   Xenix is not a true
System V but this is alot lighter than real System V on saving disk
and memory spaces.   For SCO Unix, I am not happy with SCO adding more 
files that I don't really need like MMDF mail, Security, extra copies 
of inittab files etc.   I recommend SCO to offer two version: full and 
lite version.   As far as I am awared, SCO Unix is better with modem than
Xenix, especially autobauds on Unix while Xenix needs break signals.
I heard many reports that SCO Unix can not run over 9600 bauds but I did
many testing with Telebit with 19200 bauds without any problem.

I will keep post with you on installing News in SCO Unix.

willy
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jct@jct.UUCP (John C. Tompkins) (11/15/89)

In article <1603@crdos1.crd.ge.COM>, davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes:
> In article <602@tah386.manhattan.ks.us>, terry@tah386.manhattan.ks.us (Terry Hull) writes:
> 
> |  Just me.  The performance is DOWN with UNIX.  When something like 
> |  rnews or expire is running in the background, everything else pretty 
> |  much comes to a halt.
> 
>   If this is a common problem Xenix may be with us. I was planning to
> upgrade in January, but any less performance would be unacceptable. Do
> other people find that news bogs the machine?

Well I used to have a 10Mhz 286 Xenix with 1MB RAM that news would take
FOREVVVVVVVVVER (a 50k file might typically take 15-20 minutes!) to run.

Now I have a 386 with 4MB and still using Xenix 286. News runs in almost
no time (same typical file takes less than 1 minute.) 

I think it was the limited amount of free memory that was the problem. The 
386 helps but not that much, particulary since its running as a 286.