[comp.unix.xenix] mmdf mail and smail for SCO Unix 3.2

paine@fungus.dec.com (Willy Paine) (11/14/89)

I am on process with upgrading from Xenix/386 to SCO Unix.  New SCO Unix
is using mmdf mail and this is more complication on setting up mail.  I
want to add smail from my Xenix/386 and I am not sure if it works but I
don't want to mess up mailling system.  What is the best way to test
smail from my Unix mail?  Also my bbs (akcs) is using smail in my Xenix.

Please advice me..  Thanks in advance...

willy

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frankb@usource.SARASOTA.FL.US (Frank Bicknell) (11/14/89)

In article <8911131934.AA09975@decwrl.dec.com> paine@fungus.dec.com (Willy Paine) writes:
>
> I am on process with upgrading from Xenix/386 to SCO Unix.  New
> SCO Unix is using mmdf mail and this is more complication on
> setting up mail.  I want to add smail from my Xenix/386 and I am
> not sure if it works but I don't want to mess up mailling system.
> What is the best way to test smail from my Unix mail?  Also my
> bbs (akcs) is using smail in my Xenix.  

I can't tell you exactly how I did it, but I did install smail
2.5 and elm on SCO Unix.  I did have to rip out the mail that
was there (good grief!  what is that anyway?) and "borrow" the
xenix local mailer (mail and execmail).  Basically, I emulated
the mail system as it's set up on Xenix and smail (and elm) were
happy.
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chip@vector.Dallas.TX.US (Chip Rosenthal) (11/15/89)

frankb@usource.SARASOTA.FL.US (Frank Bicknell) writes:
>I can't tell you exactly how I did it, but I did install smail
>2.5 and elm on SCO Unix.  I did have to rip out the mail that
>was there (good grief!  what is that anyway?) and "borrow" the
>xenix local mailer (mail and execmail).  Basically, I emulated
>the mail system as it's set up on Xenix and smail (and elm) were
>happy.

You might even consider junking "execmail".  Given you are running smail2.5,
execmail is required to implement two additional items:  Micnet and local
user delivery.  Most sane, rational people don't care about micnet (one
or two rational people do care, but most don't), and then that only leaves
the issue of local user delivery.

To do this, you could then install "lmail" or "deliver" and define this
as your LMAIL in smail.  (I can recommend "deliver" because I've used
it.  "lmail" should work but I don't have any experience with it.)
Furthermore, it is a simple hack or two on smail's main procedure to
recognize and promptly ignore any options mail(C) might pass to execmail,
and you can install smail as /usr/lib/mail/execmail.

I found that totally scrapping the SCO XENIX mail stuff (except for
/usr/bin/mail) and using smail2.5, deliver, and Elm made for an extremely
powerful, tight, little mail system.

Locally, "vector" is running smail3 because the smtp capability is needed.
But, I'm considering chucking smail3 from "chinacat" and dropping back
to the above mail system.

However, I only advocate doing this for SCO XENIX.  I haven't played around
with the SCO UNIX mail system.  There are some folks out there who really
do like "mmdf", and it might be a mistake to dump it without knowing what
you've got.  Any mmdf hackers care to comment?

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paine@rust.dec.com (Willy Paine) (11/16/89)

In article <326@usource.SARASOTA.FL.US> you write:
>In article <8911131934.AA09975@decwrl.dec.com> paine@fungus.dec.com (Willy Paine) writes:
>>
>I can't tell you exactly how I did it, but I did install smail
>2.5 and elm on SCO Unix.  I did have to rip out the mail that
>was there (good grief!  what is that anyway?) and "borrow" the
>xenix local mailer (mail and execmail).  Basically, I emulated
>the mail system as it's set up on Xenix and smail (and elm) were
>happy.
>-- 

Thank you for your comments.  I think I will do the same thing.  I wish
SCO would offer second version so called "lite" to get rid of unnessary
files.   All IRS and many government department are using MMDF.  I was
former system administrator for IRS and I did install MMDF there but I 
don't like this at all.      I notice that Xenix Elm can not
understand Unix mail spool and I have not got compiler for Unix yet.

Thanks again..

willy

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frankb@usource.SARASOTA.FL.US (Frank Bicknell) (11/16/89)

In article <8911151706.AA28015@decwrl.dec.com> paine@rust.dec.com (Willy Paine) writes:

> ... [ in reference to MMDF mail under SCO Unix ]
> I wish SCO would offer second version so called "lite" to get rid
> of unnessary files.

Works Great!
Less Filling (on the disk, that is :) )

I _like_ SCO Unix, but we little guys don't need it.  Sure hope
Xenix keeps plugging along or we get SCO Unix Lite (as alluded
to above) which takes its place.
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UniSource; 1405 Main St, Ste 709; Sarasota, FL 34236
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