usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (12/12/89)
From article <1989Dec8.045152.28169@NCoast.ORG>, by mikes@NCoast.ORG (Mike Squires): > One product that SCO has that makes them hard to ignore is the product that > supports multiple CPU's in a single machine, such as the Compaq Systempro. What product is this? I haven't seen anything in my SCO price lists or other info that says they have a multiple CPU product. I remember seeing a press release that said they were working on a multiprocessor implementation along with a couple of other companies. Do you know something I don't? j |%|John Lawitzke, Dale Computer Corp., R&D |%|UUCP: uunet!frith!dale1!jhl Work |%| uunet!frith!ipecac!jhl Home Inquiring minds just wondering. |%|Internet: jhl@frith.egr.msu.edu
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (12/12/89)
In article <5759@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: | What product is this? I haven't seen anything in my SCO price lists or | other info that says they have a multiple CPU product. I remember seeing | a press release that said they were working on a multiprocessor | implementation along with a couple of other companies. It was demonstrated at UNIX Expo, among other places. WIll handle 386 or 486, although I'm told that the 1st CPU must be 386. This was developed for the Zenith (I believe it's called the model Z1000) multi-processor machine. Now that ZDS has been sold I don't know the status of the project. The version I saw at Expo looked really good. Like any multi-cpu system it becomes outstanding with pipes. I didn't see any info on a multi-make, although that's one of the best reasons to have the extra CPUs. I'm not sure thay don't have it, just that I didn't see it. | | Do you know something I don't? I guess not anymore ;-) -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (12/13/89)
In article <1909@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <5759@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: > >| What product is this? I haven't seen anything in my SCO price lists or >| other info that says they have a multiple CPU product. I remember seeing >| a press release that said they were working on a multiprocessor >| implementation along with a couple of other companies. > > It was demonstrated at UNIX Expo, among other places. WIll handle 386 >or 486, although I'm told that the 1st CPU must be 386. This was >developed for the Zenith (I believe it's called the model Z1000) >multi-processor machine. Now that ZDS has been sold I don't know the >status of the project. The product demonstrated at UNIXExpo was by Corollory, and as I understood it, the SCO product was hardware-specific for that. You may only be able to get it from Corrolory distributors, but I'm not sure. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!attcan!telly!evan / (416)452-0504 If women designed condoms there is no doubt they would be not ribbed, but padded
mikes@NCoast.ORG (Mike Squires) (12/13/89)
In article <5759@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: >From article <1989Dec8.045152.28169@NCoast.ORG>, by mikes@NCoast.ORG (Mike Squires): >> One product that SCO has that makes them hard to ignore is the product that >> supports multiple CPU's in a single machine, such as the Compaq Systempro. > ..stuff deleted.. > >Do you know something I don't? Not likely :-) There's an article on this product in the most recent InfoWorld. It was not developed by SCO but licensed from someone else, as is their practice.
aris@tabbs.UUCP (Aris Stathakis) (12/13/89)
From article <5759@cps3xx.UUCP>, by usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner): > From article <1989Dec8.045152.28169@NCoast.ORG>, by mikes@NCoast.ORG (Mike Squires): }> One product that SCO has that makes them hard to ignore is the product that }> supports multiple CPU's in a single machine, such as the Compaq Systempro. } } What product is this? I haven't seen anything in my SCO price lists or } other info that says they have a multiple CPU product. I remember seeing } a press release that said they were working on a multiprocessor } implementation along with a couple of other companies. It was announced at the Las Vegas COMDEX in conjunction with the PC manufacturers that have released their multi-processor PC's (if you can call them PC's anymore...). Right now i think they only have 2 processor Machines, but they were talking about having 16 processor 386's (and 486's). All I can say is this kinda stuff makes me drool :-) aris -- Aris Stathakis | Bang: ..!uunet!ddsw1!olsa99!tabbs!aris or aris@tabbs.UUCP - Gimme a beer and money sandwich.... Hold the bread - - Waldo (D.R.) Dobbs
markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) (12/21/89)
aris@tabbs.UUCP (Aris Stathakis) writes: >It was announced at the Las Vegas COMDEX in conjunction with the PC >manufacturers that have released their multi-processor PC's (if you can >call them PC's anymore...). >Right now i think they only have 2 processor Machines, but they were talking >about having 16 processor 386's (and 486's). Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? -- Markus R. markus@ti.com A .sig file? I don't have any spare inodes!
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (12/22/89)
In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: | Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or | is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? The kernel seems to be Xenix 386. I believe that the company who did the port is called CONSENSYS, but I don't have the info right here. The port was done for the Zenith Z-1000 multiprocessor system. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon
paulb@zds-ux.UUCP (Paul E. Berg) (12/22/89)
In article <1909@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: > >In article <5759@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: > > > >| What product is this? I haven't seen anything in my SCO price lists or > >| other info that says they have a multiple CPU product. > > > > It was demonstrated at UNIX Expo, among other places. WIll handle 386 > >or 486, although I'm told that the 1st CPU must be 386. This was > >developed for the Zenith (I believe it's called the model Z1000) > >multi-processor machine. Now that ZDS has been sold I don't know the > >status of the project. > > The product demonstrated at UNIXExpo was by Corollory, and as I > understood it, the SCO product was hardware-specific for that. You may > only be able to get it from Corrolory distributors, but I'm not sure. Zenith Data Systems is currently shipping the Z-1000, a 386 multiprocessor based on technology developed by Corollary, Inc. which includes a SCO XENIX 2.3.2 GT based kernel. The Z-1000 configurations are 2 to 6 CPUs (each with 64KB of local cache), up to 64 MB of EDAC (Error Detecting And Correcting) memory, an integral UPS power supply, SCSI (Adaptec 1542) host adapter, 1 to 4 SCSI (150, 300, and 600MB) disks in the main drive bay, a 150MB Archive tape drive, floppy disk, and up to 160 tty devices... Additional SCSI devices are supported by a second Adaptec host adapter, "mkdev hd/tape" can configure 9 disks, 2 cartridge tapes, and 2 reel-to-reel tapes as shipped. The Z-1000 supports additional ISA bus cards with standard SCO XENIX device drivers. Standard SCO software packages are used on the system, including SCO XENIX TCP/IP, XenixNet, Development System, Text Processing, and Office Portfolio. whew... sounds like an add... The SCO XENIX OS for the Z-1000 is not listed in SCO price sheets because it is a specific version for the Z-1000 and it is bundled with the Z-1000 hardware -- if you can use it you already have it. SCO announced its MPX extension to SCO UNIX System V/386 -- this product uses Corollary Inc. technology -- I believe announced availability is in 1st quarter 1990... In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com>, markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: > > Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or > is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? That's a little rough... SCO has their own system software group that started with standard AT&T UNIX System V.3.2 -- when/if you get into it I think you'll find that it differs from the AT&T release about as much as ISC does, only in different places. BUT it does run all the same binary apps that AT&T and ISC run (given appropriate system/package support). --____ ___ ____ /| ) /) / ' /| ) Paul E. Berg / |-'__ // /-- / |-< _ __ _ Zenith Data Systems (_/ (_(_(_(_(/_ (___,o (_/___)_(<_/ (_(_)_ uunet!zds-ux!paulb /| voice (616) 982-5124 (/ fax (616) 982-5690
amull@Morgan.COM (Andrew P. Mullhaupt) (12/22/89)
I need to know if on the multiprocessor machines (dual 386,486) discussed in this thread one can run simultaneous UNIX on one head and actual real (not an emulator) DOS on the other. I have a really weird reason for this - (actually I don't; but some big shots here do - and it isn't a really frivolous reason), and I would like to know if this is possible. SCO UNIX System V would be an OK UNIX to run but others might be OK too. Later, Andrew Mullhaupt
davef@lakesys.lakesys.com (Dave Fenske) (12/22/89)
In article <1951@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: > >| Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or >| is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? > > The kernel seems to be Xenix 386. I believe that the company who did >the port is called CONSENSYS, but I don't have the info right here. The >port was done for the Zenith Z-1000 multiprocessor system. >-- The product in question is called SCO Unix/MPX. It should be available early 1990, perhaps Feb or Mar. The company that wrote the extensions to Xenix is named Corollary. They have been building their own boards based on 286 processors and using the kernel extensions for several years now. Yes, SCO is licensing the technology from Corollary. Zenith has been selling a 386 multi-processor system for a year now. Compaq has announced a new computer called the SystemPro which contains two processors and will use this new Unix version to "acheive truly symmetric multi-prossing" according to Compaq and SCO. As a disclaimer, I must say that I am by no means an expert on what is or is not symmetric, so perhaps someone else might clear this matter up. Several other computer mfgs are also releasing multi-processor systems which are built around the 386 and 486 chips. DF
rogerk@sco.COM (Roger Knopf 5502) (12/23/89)
In article <1951@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: > >| Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or >| is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? > > The kernel seems to be Xenix 386. I believe that the company who did >the port is called CONSENSYS, but I don't have the info right here. The >port was done for the Zenith Z-1000 multiprocessor system. Bill, normally you are right on the money, but this time a little correction is in order. SCO MPX is the multiprocessor extension for SCO Unix System V/386 rel 3.2 and Open Desktop. SCO partnered with Corollary in Irvine, CA to implement this. First done for the Z1000, it also runs on the Compaq Systempro, Mitac 500, apricot MC486 and Corollary 386/smp and 486/smp. Other vendors to come. I don't want this to turn into an ad, if the consensus of the net is that more detail are desired, I can post them. Anyone who wants can get our technical background paper from their local SCO Authorized Reseller or by emailing a request to sco!info. Roger Knopf SCO Consulting Services {sun,uunet}!sco!rogerk or rogerk@sco.com
paulb@zds-ux.UUCP (Paul E. Berg) (12/23/89)
In article <1951@crdos1.crd.ge.COM>, davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: > In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: > > | Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or > | is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? > > The kernel seems to be Xenix 386. I believe that the company who did > the port is called CONSENSYS, but I don't have the info right here. The > port was done for the Zenith Z-1000 multiprocessor system. Quoting the Nov/Dec 1989 DiSCOver (SCO Newsletter) article on SCO MPX: "SCO MPX is based on multiprocessing software technology developed by Corollary, Inc. Through a joint development agreement with SCO, this technology has been adapted to become the standard multiprocessing extension for SCO Operating Systems." MPX will be installed by invoking the "Add a Supported Product" function in custom(ADM) after you have installed SCO UNIX System V/386. MPX is not XENIX based; the Corollary technology has been re-implemented as an extension of SCO's standard UNIX 3.2 product. SCO started with the AT&T UNIX System V/386 flavor to which it added C2 security and POSIX FIPS compliance (among other features). The Zenith Z-1000 is shipping with a XENIX 2.3.2 GT based operating system developed by Corollary, SCO, and Zenith Data Systems. When SCO MPX becomes available it will support "... OEM designs based on the Corollary's 386/smp and 486/smp machines [and] ... the Zenith Z1000." as per the Nov/Dec 1989 DiSCOver article. -- Paul E. Berg (...uunet!zds-ux!paulb)
thurm@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Matthew Thurmaier) (12/23/89)
In article <1951@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <103254@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> markus@ti.com (Markus N. Richardson) writes: > >| Any information whose UNIX kernel SCO is licensing this time around? Or >| is this a flavor of the ISC System V.3.2 UNIX one? > > The kernel seems to be Xenix 386. I believe that the company who did >the port is called CONSENSYS, but I don't have the info right here. The >port was done for the Zenith Z-1000 multiprocessor system. >-- I don't think so. EVERY article I have seen (Unix Today11/13/89 pp 1,75 and SCO DiSCOver 11-12/89 pp 1,36) ALL indicate that the O.S. is SCO UNIX V.3.2 with mods done by corollary, Inc. >bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) -- Matthew J. Thurmaier ...decvax!garp!harvard!uwvax!thurm The Computer Classroom matt@shorty.cs.wisc.edu 6701 Seybold Road, Ste. 122 (608) 271-2171 Madison, WI 53719 -- The problem w/ Republicans? THEY LACK WISDOM!