[comp.unix.xenix] Unix on my XT

plb@dcdwest.UUCP (Phil Blais) (02/02/90)

In article <90@moxie.UUCP>, greg@moxie.UUCP (Greg Hackney) writes:
> In article <90012712325770@masnet.uucp> mark.levy@canremote.uucp (MARK LEVY) writes:
> 
> > to the best of my knowledge, SCO is the only company 
> > that ever sold a PC version [of UNIX], with the exception of XINU and MINIX,
> >  i.e I believe that it is the only commercial version.
> 
> I saw Venturcom's "Venix" on an XT. Xenix was much better.

  We USED Venturcom's "Venix" on many XT's. At the time it was like a
  cool ocean breeze in the middle of a barren DOS desert. Today SCO Xenix
  is our OS of choice.

rogerk@sco.COM (Roger Knopf 5502) (02/02/90)

>> I don't mean to scare you, but I'd recomend 2MB for starters, and then at
>> least an additional 1MB per user...

Dave is right on the money. SCO Xenix-86 never supported more than 640Kb.

Roger Knopf
SCO Consulting Services

mark.levy@canremote.uucp (MARK LEVY) (02/04/90)

wu>     I am thinking about running a unix operating system on my IBM PC
wu>XT clone (8 mhz.) and I was told xenix was a good operating system.
wu>Could anyone please tell me some things about xenix?

wu>     1)  How close is xenix to true unix?
   XENIX is Microsoft's licenced version of UNIX, based on Unix version 
6.  It has since been heavily modified by Santa Cruz Operation (SCO).
It is a fully functional version of UNIX, even in the PC-XT version,
although it will be far more limited and slow than the 386 or even
286 versions.   to the best of my knowledge, SCO is the only company 
that ever sold a PC version, with the exception of XINU and MINIX, i.e
I believe that it is the only commercial version.  I don't believe that
SCO has updated it for some time, so although it should be available
from somewhere, it probably won't be UNIX SYS V compatable.

wu>     2)  Does it have uucp with the ability to send mail and read
wu>news?
   It does have the standard mail and UUCP functions.  I don't know if 
the news (USENET) software has been ported to it by SCO.  SCO does 
offer binaries, but I don't know what processor they are compiled
for.

wu>     3)  Is it multi-user/multi-processing?
   YES

wu>     4)  How many terminals can you attach and what type (i.e.
wu>         VT100, ADM3A, etc.) ?
   Unknown, but realisticly, don't expect to get more than 3-5 users
on a 10MHz XT.  It would use the standard termcap, so most terminals
should be covered, and you would have the ability to add terminals
to the database.  The key is to get as much memory as you can possibly
afford.  You want to avoid swapping processes at all costs, since you
will get old waiting on an 8 bit controller to swap a big file.  I don't
mean to scare you, but I'd recomend 2MB for starters, and then at least
an additional 1MB per user.  Realizing that you'll probably be using 
41256-120s, that won't be too expensive, at about $76.00 MB.

wu>     5)  What is the price range??
   Unknown, but I'd be suprised if it were more than about $350.00

wu>P.S.    6)  Does it have its own C compiler????
   Unknown, but I doubt it.   Well, maybe...

Mark
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ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) (02/05/90)

In article <90020407120043@masnet.uucp> mark.levy@canremote.uucp (MARK LEVY) writes:
>    It does have the standard mail and UUCP functions.  I don't know if 
> the news (USENET) software has been ported to it by SCO.  SCO does 
> offer binaries, but I don't know what processor they are compiled
> for.

286, I'm afraid.  For one thing, getting compress to work in 64k would
be *interesting* to say the least.

I used SCO B News binaries for quite a while.  Works.

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davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (02/06/90)

In article <90020407120043@masnet.uucp> mark.levy@canremote.uucp (MARK LEVY) writes:

|                 to the best of my knowledge, SCO is the only company 
| that ever sold a PC version, with the exception of XINU and MINIX, i.e
| I believe that it is the only commercial version.  

  IBM sold PC/ix, an INteractive port of SysIII, for some time. We still
have machines running it, because it is dead reliable and there's no
good reason to change. I agree that Xenix is the way to go.
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mark.levy@canremote.uucp (MARK LEVY) (02/06/90)

In article <90012700003218@masnet.uucp> mark.levy@canremote.uucp
(MARK LEVY) writes:
I don't mean to scare you, but I'd recomend 2MB for starters, and
then at  least an additional 1MB per user...

cm>My understanding is that an XT can only handle 10 bits of address.
cm>Therefore, it is probably a waste of money to put more than 1MB on
cm>it...

   I meant in regards to the 286 or 386 versions of XENIX.  Sorry
for any confusion I may have caused.

Mark
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stevesc@microsoft.UUCP (Steve SCHONBERGER) (02/10/90)

I looked.  List price for 8086 (8088) Xenix is $295.

macy@fmsystm.UUCP (Macy Hallock) (03/04/90)

Recently someone asked for a copy of SCO Xenix Development system
for the 8088/86.  I looked, and I have an older copy sitting around
doing nothing...but one of the disks seems to be missing...otherwise
it is complete with the manuals.  This is a legitmate, albeit older
package.

If you want, drop me a line. We are talking very cheap here...make
me a offer...

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