NEASE@MAINE.BITNET (08/13/90)
A client of mine has SCO Xenix 2.3.2 on a 386. I'm used to BSD and its man page setup, instead of the skimpy help system on Xenix. I tried talking to sales-types at SCO about a man page system. Some of them thought that maybe the text processing package *might* have the man page support, others weren't sure. Upgrading to SCO Unix 3.2 simply to get man pages is not an option. Does anybody know which, if any, SCO product for Xenix has the man support? If there is no such animal, does anybody know of a good public domain or shareware implementation (ftp-able/uucp-able/modem-able preferably). An inexpensive (within a couple of hundred dollars) commercial package would also be ok. In advance, thanks. Reid M. Pinchback
root@herctec.UUCP (Super user) (08/13/90)
In article <90224.143130NEASE@MAINE.BITNET> NEASE@MAINE.BITNET writes: >A client of mine has SCO Xenix 2.3.2 on a 386. I'm used to BSD and its >man page setup, instead of the skimpy help system on Xenix. I tried talking >to sales-types at SCO about a man page system. Some of them thought that >maybe the text processing package *might* have the man page support, others >weren't sure. Upgrading to SCO Unix 3.2 simply to get man pages is not >an option. > >Does anybody know which, if any, SCO product for Xenix has the man support? [...] > Reid M. Pinchback I may be naive on this subject, but for my Xenix 2.3.2 setup, getting the man pages for everything was a matter of inserting the disk labelled "On-Line Manual Pages." It's rather strange that the SCO people didn't know what you were talking about. Either (a) they're clueless, (b) what I have here was only released on a limited basis (granted, the majority of Xenix systems I've been on have no man pages installed), or (c) I'm just imagining things! BTW, I have man pages on the text processing system, as well as the development system and all the basics, like the "ls" command and uucp... -- ===== Dylan Rhodes: Tech Support Manager, Hercules Computer Technology ====== Voice: 415-540-6000 BBS: 415-540-0621 uucp: hoptoad!asylum!herctec!shark I doubt if Hercules has an opinion on this; if they do, it's probably not mine. ===============================================================================
cnews@cix.cix.UUCP (Cliff Stanford) (08/15/90)
In article <90224.143130NEASE@MAINE.BITNET> NEASE@MAINE.BITNET writes: > Upgrading to SCO Unix 3.2 simply to get man pages is not >an option. I hate to disillusion you but you don't get nroff/troff with Unix either. You have to buy the addon 'text processing' package. Rip-off or what?
evil@arcturus.uucp (Wade Guthrie) (08/16/90)
In article <90224.143130NEASE@MAINE.BITNET> NEASE@MAINE.BITNET writes: >[. . .] I tried talking >to sales-types at SCO about a man page system. Some of them thought that >maybe the text processing package *might* have the man page support, others >weren't sure. [. . .] > >Does anybody know which, if any, SCO product for Xenix has the man support? Yeah, get the text processing package. You need that for the ...roff package to make the man pages come out on the screen. I don't know why the dudes at SCO didn't know that -- it seems to be common knowledge around here.
tanner@cdis-1.compu.com (Dr. T. Andrews) (08/21/90)
In the cited article, evil@arcturus.uucp (Wade Guthrie) writes:
) get the text processing package. You need that for the ...roff
) package to make the man pages come out on the screen.
Unfortunately, this isn't the entire story. Yes, it seems that
you have to buy the text processing package to get the "man"
pages.
However, the man pages themselves are shipped as very bad nroff
output. You can't usefully run them through with a neater macro
package, or print them more neatly on your "better" nroff
printer, or use them with "troff" and your troff previewer.
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ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) (08/21/90)
In article <00001XO@cdis-1.compu.com> tanner@cdis-1.compu.com (Dr. T. Andrews) writes: > However, the man pages themselves are shipped as very bad nroff > output. In the 2.2 man page set, yes, in the 2.3 man page set they were distributed as [nt]roff -man source (at least mine were :-). With psroff 2.0 (out soon in comp.sources.unix) you can make very nice output with them on your laser printer using the grotty C/A/T troff supplied by SCO. I wish they'd ship a bugfixed version of troff though. SCO's ancient one barfs on the Berzerkeley -me macro package :-( -- Eunet: Ronald.Khoo@robobar.Co.Uk Phone: +44 81 991 1142 Fax: +44 81 998 8343 Paper: Robobar Ltd. 22 Wadsworth Road, Perivale, Middx., UB6 7JD ENGLAND.
wrp@biochsn.acc.Virginia.EDU (William R. Pearson) (08/22/90)
>with them on your laser printer using the grotty C/A/T troff supplied >by SCO. I wish they'd ship a bugfixed version of troff though. SCO's >ancient one barfs on the Berzerkeley -me macro package :-( Actually, it is relatively simple to get SCO's troff to work with the -me macros. You need to edit the macros so that constructions of the form: .if .... \{ ... \} become: .if ... \{ ... \} Here is the text of an earlier msg that explains the solution: ]The problem is with the .if directive. In fact, the first offender is ]one of the first ones in tmac.e. You cannot continue a .if with a ]backslash, unless you also use braces around the body. I'm not sure if ]the opening brace must appear on the same line or not. ] ]Anyway, I was finally able to get it working just by editing the .if stuff. ]-- ] Greg Woods. ] ]UUCP: utgpu!woods, utgpu!{ontmoh, ontmoh!ixpierre}!woods ]VOICE: (416) 242-7572 [h] LOCATION: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Bill Pearson
simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) (08/23/90)
While we're on the subject, has anyone noticed that some manual pages are not accessible? Try the man page for uuinstall or configure. It seems that the M in the ADM suffix is missing on these files. Look in /usr/man/man.ADM for more details. It's easy to fix too, just seems to have gotten truncated somewhere along the line. -- Simon Gales@The University of Kentucky simon@ms.uky.edu simon@UKMA.BITNET {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon Power is danger. -- The Centurion, "Balance of Terror," stardate 1709.2.