[comp.misc] Televideo

rg@gillxp (Richard J. Gill) (08/16/88)

I am looking for suggestions regarding copying data from a Televideo
816/40 (CP/M - I think "concurrent") to an NCR Tower (System V).

The Televideo system has a 40MB hard disc, and is now supporting two
terminals.  I am unfamiliar with this machine or with CP/M, and there is
no technical documentation available. The system has a floppy disc and
tape drive as well as several connnectors which appear (to my untrained
eye) to be serial ports. 

The data to be transfered is primarily ASCII (printable). We have run a
test conversion wherein a local firm converted a floppy disc from the
Televideo system to 360kb IBM-PC format which I then read on the Tower. 
Using this approach, it is going to be a really long and complicated
project to move 20-30MB.

How feasible is it to connect the two machines and copy the data that
way?  What will the physical hook-up look like on the Televideo end?
What programs and/or system commands will be needed at the CP/M end? 
(Is there an equivalent to "cat file > /dev/tty01" ?)

Thanks in advance for your help. 
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GERSHON@BARILVM.BITNET (Gershon Kunin) (08/18/88)

I also worked with such a Televideo a few years ago, but I don't remember
all the details.  I do seem to remember that there was a port on the back
of the box labeled MODEM.  Maybe that might mean something.  I don't know
what format the tape drive was.  Could be that there's some potential there,
too.  I'd be interested to hear just ow you solve the problem in the end.

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john@bell_hop.uucp (John T. Bell) (08/20/88)

Try bringing zmodem under cp/m and connecting the telewidget
up to the Tower via RS-232 on one of the 800A Terminals. If
you can't do zmodem then there are some good Ymodem, and 
modem 7 programs which should also be workable on the TVI.
If you are into a little hacking then you can write a prgram
to write through the 422 port on the telvideo server at very
(for a z80) high speed (approx 115,000bps).

"Don't know much about politics..."

allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) (08/20/88)

As quoted from <119@gillxp> by rg@gillxp (Richard J. Gill):
+---------------
| I am looking for suggestions regarding copying data from a Televideo
| 816/40 (CP/M - I think "concurrent") to an NCR Tower (System V).
+---------------

If it's Concurrent CP/M (or possibly CP/M-86), you should be able to set the
serial port with SETUP.CMD and then copy a file with the command

			PIP LPT2:=filename.ext

(The device name may be wrong, I haven't used it in awhile and my manuals
aren't readily available.)  On the System V side, you can catch data from
the port most easily with "cu -l/dev/ttyXX dir | tee file", but you will
probably have to edit the file afterward.  A method which avoids editing is
somewhat more complex:

	$ sleep 30000 < /dev/ttyXX &
	$ stty icanon -echo eof '^z' ... < /dev/ttyXX
	$ for file in {put list of filenames here}; do
	>   cat -u - < /dev/ttyXX | tr -d '\015' > $file
	> done

This makes sure the port retains its settings, since after the last close it
returns to the probably-useless default.  The setting of "eof" allows the
Unix system to detect CP/M end of file automatically, assuming the last line
of the data file is terminated with the usual CRLF.  (If it's not, you will
have to separate the files manually anyway.)

++Brandon
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