mikej@cpmain.UUCP (Michael R. Johnston) (09/22/88)
A few weeks ago I posted a query on the net for information regarding
my communications alternatives between an HP3000 (MPE) and an Altos (XENIX).
Essentially we have decided upon using Kermit running in server mode on the
HP as the most cost effective method. We did succeed in obtaining a copy
of a "Non-supported" HP-Xmodem program. It worked but lacked the functionality
that would make it an everyday alternative. For now ,Kermit seems to handle our
needs nicely. Now, if I could only speed Kermit up!!!! Thanks for all your
replies. For interested parties I have included a summary of the most
useful replies I received.
Michael R. Johnston - @NET: mikej@cpmain.uucp
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lamont@hpda.hp.com
About the easiest way, which I have seen used in the past, is to run a direct
connect line between the *nix machine and the 3000. Then write a program that
will basically uuencode (or equivalent) the file and ship it across the link
to a program (launched by the program on the *nix side) which will unencode it.
That is by far the cheapest solution, requiring 3 wires and a couple simple
programs. Other more expensive methods can be used.
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woolstar@csvax.caltech.edu
If you can get some hackers together on your HP, you can use the
kermit file transfer protocal, which is very reliable and not
difficult to implement. We use it between VAX, XENIX, HP9000 and
other random PCs. The protocal should be in any Data Communications
Cookbook. And ckermit already exists for every *nix machine I know of.
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ken@cs.rochester.edu
Try kermit, I believe there is a version for SPL. If you had ftp you
could get it from cu20b.cc.columbia.edu. okstate has uucp for it too.
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riddle%woton.uucp@cs.utexas.edu
Blast is a communications package that claims to work on generic Unix
boxes and on the HP 3000, as well as a bunch of other systems. We
looked into it when we had a similar problem. We didn't buy the product
so I don't know how good it is.
Blast is available from Communications Research Group, (504) 923-0888.
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gph@hpsemc.HP.COM (Paul Houtz )
My suggestion is that you first contact your HP field sales team. They
have access to all available information about supported products that may
serve this need. In particular, you should speak with the SE for your account.
They can contact the Hewlett-Packard Network Marketing Center, which can
give direct information about all HP and non-HP products that may work.
Also, I believe that NS/3000 has the ability to do datacomm with HP-UX
machines already, if this is of help.
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ostroff@aramis.rutgers.edu (Jack Ostroff)
As previous postigs suggested -talk to your sales rep or account rep.
However - if networking the altos to the 3000's is out of the
question, most terminal emulation software includes some sort of file
transfer capabilities. (How useful this is depends on speed and how
much you have to transfer.) Kermit and Xmodem are both available for
the 3000, and there are a number of more efficient but proprietary
methods. Most of such software is for MSDOS - but you can likely
find something for *nix.
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glee@cognos.uucp (Godfrey Lee)
For serial connection between MPE and Unix, try Blast!
For LAN connection between MPE and Unix, I believe Wollongong is releasing
their TCP/IP package for MPE, Real Soon Now.
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harkin@hpindda.HP.COM (Art Harkin)
Yes, there is a product from Wollongong for the 3000: "WIN/TCP for MPE/V".
It supports Telnet, FTP, SMTP (ARPA Services) which run on top of TCP/IP.
HP references this product, but it is not an HP product and is supported
by The Wollongong Group. Below is the information to contact Wollongong for
more details and sales information:
In USA: MAIN OFFICE EAST COAST OFFICE
The Wollongong Group The Wollongong Group
1129 San Antonio Road 7799 Leesburg Pike
PO Box 51860 Suite 1100
Palo Alto, CA 94303 Falls Church, VA 22042
(415) 962-7200 (703) 847-6340
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uunet!datapg.MN.ORG!sewilco (Scot E Wilcoxon)
Several years ago, gene@zeno.mn.org posted a dial(3) replacement to the
net. It is intended as a general modem-dialing routine which can be
told a modem type and be driven from tables in a file. It allows much more
flexibility than uucico and kermit "expect-send" scripts.
If all you wanted was dialing a modem (perhaps through port selectors), try
it. If you wanted to do more, you'll have the source and can add more
functions.
To get a copy, mail to "netlib@datapg.mn.org" a message with the line "send
tools/dial.shar". It is only 48Kb.
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uunet!uiucdcs!harvard!talcott!amcad!billb (Bill Burton)
Having done some work with Kermit a couple of years ago, I seem
to recall that there is a version of Kermit written in SPL for the HP.
You can try and send mail to cu20b.columbia.edu!info-kermit-request
(I think this is correct) for more information. You could also try
posting a message to comp.protocols.kermit. Hopefully, your news
software will send it to the moderator.
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Michael R. Johnston - @NET: mikej@cpmain.uucp
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