hmuskat@cdp.UUCP (04/24/89)
Dear Friends, Individuals associated with the Veterans Peace Action Teams (VPAT) have developed a special relationship with our brothers and sisters in Nicaragua who are members of the Organization of Revolutionary Disabled - vets who have incurred war injuries of a disabling nature. One of the trucks (from the Bay Area) of the Vets Peace Convoy to Nicaragua went to the ORD and now we are helping them secure a computer, relevant software & documentation, small scale industrial sewing machines, sports equipment and wheelchairs and crutches. We have just had a Lisa computer donated. It has 2 ram & a hard disk but very little software. (1) We are in desperate need of software and manuals. Also, we have (2) questions about turning this early mac into a real mac. Is this possible? (3) we need a printer. (4) Does anyone know of a Lisa users group? (5) Does anyone know of anyone in Mana gua who is familiar with Lisa's or who could give some support to the ORD? Please respond either here or e-mail to hmuskat. Thanks. -halM-
jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell) (04/25/89)
In article <135900007@cdp>, hmuskat@cdp.UUCP writes: > > Individuals associated with the Veterans Peace Action Teams (VPAT) > have developed a special relationship with our brothers and sisters in > Nicaragua who are members of the Organization of Revolutionary Disabled - > vets who have incurred war injuries of a disabling nature. I'm curious as to how they received those injuries. Was it fighting the ex-Somocistas (who would be just as bad as the Ortegistas)? Or fighting those who want civil liberties and a relatively free economy? Or shutting down La Prensa? Or persecuting the Miskito Indians? Or jailing former members of the coalition who feel betrayed by the Ortegistas? Para un Tejas Libre, Jeff Daiell -- "The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, preserved their neutrality." -- Dante
hmuskat@cdp.UUCP (04/25/89)
Injuries sustained against either Somoza national guard or U.S. backed contra's. You might be surprised when you visit Nicaragua how much wide spread support they receive from the population throughout the country. I for one do not believe la prensa should be allowed to publish while receiving funds from the cia. During WWII at each metro daily through the u.s. the govt kept one (1) censor employed. There is precedent in democratic countries for such a thing. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize what I knew little about. Check it out. You are lacking important informatin. Suggest you log onto peacenet somehow and educate yourself re. central america & specifically Nicaragua. While I responded to you directly in e-mail, thought readers should have an opportunity to read my response. Perhaps more discussion can take place in alt. politics.
aberg@math.rutgers.edu (Hans Aberg) (04/26/89)
You can get into touch with Sun Remarketing, Inc. (800) 821-3221, which refurbishes Lisa's to join the Mac market. Hans Aberg, Mathematics aberg@math.rutgers.edu
jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell) (04/27/89)
In article <135900008@cdp>, hmuskat@cdp.UUCP writes: > > Injuries sustained against either Somoza national guard or U.S. backed contra's. > You might be surprised when you visit Nicaragua how much wide spread support > they receive from the population throughout the country. > > I for one do not believe la prensa should be allowed to publish while receiving > funds from the cia. During WWII at each metro daily through the u.s. the govt > kept one (1) censor employed. There is precedent in democratic countries for > such a thing. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize what I knew little about. > Check it out. You are lacking important informatin. > > Suggest you log onto peacenet somehow and educate yourself re. central america & > specifically Nicaragua. > > While I responded to you directly in e-mail, thought readers should have an > opportunity to read my response. Perhaps more discussion can take place in alt. > politics. Well, fair is fair, so I'll reply here -- a lot of folks, my site included, don't get alt.politics. (1) I fail to see where someone's funding removes their Human rights. I would certainly oppose closing down The Daily World because it gets money from people who support dictatorships. (2) Our government has also acted genocidally toward Indians. That does *not* justify similar actions by the Ortegistas. I am amused/sickened by rightwingers who justify socialistic actions by governments in South Africa and Brazil, and by leftwingers' who justify repression by governments in Nicaragua, Cuba, etc. That's one reason I like Amnesty International: they criticize violations of Human rights by any government committing them, including our own. Para un Tejas Libre, Jeff Daiell P.S. I have a friend who's an ex-Sandinista, and who has family in Nicaragua still. I doubt your data are too much better than mine! To sum up: it was wrong when Somoza closed La Prensa. It is just as wrong for the Ortegas to do so. -- ________ In Hoc Signo |__/__/_ Vinces __/__/_|