[comp.misc] How do I connect a DEC DELNI to a thin-wire Ethernet?

shoat@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr. David Shoat) (05/22/89)

This group is probably not the best place for this, but while we're on the
subject of thin-wire Ethernet:

What's the best (only?) way to break out from a DEC DELNI onto thin-wire? The
DELNI, for the uninitiated, is a mains-powered device which emulates a piece
of coax cable and some transceivers. You just plug up to eight transceiver
cables from your systems into the box and it all works. There is also another
port on the DELNI into which one is supposed to connect a standard thick-
wire transceiver. This should let you break out on to a thick-wire network.
Will this work with thin-wire, or do I need a repeater?

Does anyone know why my whole damn network crashes every time I throw the
switch on the DELNI which enables the external port?

Thanks.

David Shoat
Dept. of Medical Cardiology
Glasgow Royal Infirmary.

root@helios.toronto.edu (Operator) (05/26/89)

In article <2987@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> shoat@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr. David Shoat) writes:
>
>What's the best (only?) way to break out from a DEC DELNI onto thin-wire? 

Just buy a thinwire transceiver, an in-line type that you insert into the
RG58 and which has the standard transceiver cable connector on the other
side. Then you plug your DELNI into it with a transceiver cable.

>Does anyone know why my whole damn network crashes every time I throw the
>switch on the DELNI which enables the external port?
>

Enabling the external port sends all packets from any of the equipment plugged 
into the other ports out through it onto the coax connected to it. Since you 
presumably don't have a coax there (judging by the above question), the packets 
are going off into never-never land, and as far as the equipment is concerned,
the network is dead.

If you don't have a coax (or thinwire) connected, there is no reason at all 
why you would need to enable the external port. This is the point of the
switch - you can be isolated or not, as you choose.

A DELNI is essentially an ethernet-in-a-box. If *all* your network equipment
is in one place, and there's only 8 of them, you don't need to lay any
cable. (Actually you can get more than 8 by "cascading" DELNI's - nicely
described in the DELNI manual).

Remember, for the future, that should your real coax jam or break, you can
make your systems on the DELNI stay alive by flipping the switch to disable
the external port. We have found this to be extremely useful for our
VAXcluster, all the members of which are connected to the same DELNI.

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