bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) (07/15/89)
This is the final call for votes on a new unmoderated group called news.newusers.questions. Those people whose votes I've already received are listed after the end of this call for votes. The charter for this group is: "A forum for relatively inexperienced users of Usenet to ask questions relating to Usenet and electronic mail. This is the place where you should feel free to ask that silly question you'd be embarrassed to ask in any other newsgroup." (I thought about it for a while and decided that one really has to include e-mail here since it is so intimately connected to Usenet.) What we get out of the new group: Helping new users become better at using Usenet and e-mail. Decreasing noise in other news groups. Removing some of the load from system administrators. Discovering new information that belongs in the news.announce.newusers postings. I'm expecting that the range of questions would include (but certainly wouldn't be limited to): I asked a question about abbreviations on the net and was told to RTFM. What does RTFM mean? I was told that I should have read news.announce.newusers. But when I subscribed there was nothing there. What do I do now? I want <pick your newsreader> to do X, how do I get it to? What does luser%foobar.com@bletch.net mean and how to I send e-mail to him? What is patch? I want to ask "?" but I can't figure out which newsgroups are appropriate. What do you suggest? I just got flamed for "Z", what are the rules here? I'm changing jobs and want to stay connected to the net, what should I do? I'm looking for a newsreader that will do X, does one exist? What's a good newsgroup for keeping on top of "what's going on" in netland? What is my e-mail address and how should I put it into my signature? To vote, you send a message to one of two addresses. If you want the group to be created, send a message to newusers-yes@twwells.com ; if you do not want the group to be created, send your message to newusers-no@twwells.com . The contents of the message are irrelevant; I will classify them solely by which address they are sent to. If you can't get to newusers-yes@twwells.com , there are several alternate addresses. Some Internet and BITNET sites may not recognize my address; if your vote bounces, try newusers-yes%twwells.com@uunet.uu.net . If you are a UUCP site and don't have the foggiest idea what to do with this kind of address, you can still vote if you can route to uunet. For that method, the route starting at uunet is uunet!twwells!newusers-yes . If you are on another net, you are on your own. :-) Of course, you can do the same things for the newusers-no mailbox. Votes sent to my personal account, which includes replies to this posting, will be ignored. The voting ends on July 18. Followups to this message should be posted in news.groups. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh | sunvice } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com --- These are the votes I've received so far: "adam louis rose" <uunet!tank.uchicago.edu!adam> Alan J Holmes <uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!Alan.Holmes%brunel.ac.uk> Alan J Rosenthal <uunet!dgp.toronto.edu!flaps> Allen Perkins <uunet!pmafire!adp> Andreas Pagel <uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!mauhk%cu.warwick.ac.uk> Andy Cowling <arc@concurrent.co.uk> Andy Ingle <uunet!acorn.co.uk!andy> Anthony J Stieber <uunet!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!astieber> Art Werschulz <uunet!cs.columbia.edu!agw> Aydin Edguer <uunet!alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu!edguer> "Barton E. Schaefer" <uunet!cse.ogc.edu!schaefer> Ben Yalow <uunet!CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!YBMCU> Bengt Larsson <uunet!MATHS.LTH.Se!bengtl> "Bernhard Kraft" <uunet!unido!cadlab!berni> Bernhard Ruef at Autelca <uunet!mcvax!hslrswi!ncr1!ruef> Bertil Jonell <uunet!ranko.cd.chalmers.se!bertil> bigbroth!rk Bill Fenner <uunet!ECL.PSU.Edu!WCF> bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Bob Sloane <uunet!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!SLOANE> Brant Cheikes <uunet!manta.pha.pa.us!brant> brendan@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US (Brendan Kehoe) Brian Miller <uunet!cvl.umd.edu!brian> Charles J. Guest <uunet!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!chguest> Clive Feather <uunet!ixi!clive> David C Lawrence <uunet!pawl.rpi.edu!tale> David Chalmers <uunet!cogsci.indiana.edu!dave> David Datta <uunet!vacs.uwp.wisc.edu!datta> David Herron -- One of the vertebrae <uunet!ms.uky.edu!david> David Stodolsky <uunet!diku.dk!stodol> David Wright <uunet!stl.stc.co.uk!dww> Dinesh K. Prabhu <uunet!amelia.nas.nasa.gov!prabhu> e c andrews <uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!eeandrew%pyramid.swansea.ac.uk> Eddy Carroll <uunet!CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!ECARROLL%vax1.tcd.ie> Erik Naggum <uunet!ifi.uio.no!enag> Fraser S. <uunet!lake.scar.utoronto.ca!fraser> Garrett A. Wollman <uunet!uvm-gen!tnl!gwollman> Geoff Allen <uunet!pmafire!geoff> Germaine Leveque <uunet!cs.columbia.edu!germaine> Gordon Edwards <uunet!ncratl!edwards> "Govind N. Kamat" <uunet!uceng.UC.EDU!kamat> Hal Birkeland <uunet!media-lab.media.mit.edu!hkbirke> "Howard M. Kash" (Summer|jemion) <uunet!BRL.MIL!hmkash> Ignatius Tan <uunet!siesoft.co.uk!ig> "J. Kivi Shapiro" <uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!kivi%watcsc.waterloo.edu> James Clark <uunet!jclark!jjc> Jeff Beadles <uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!jeff%quark.wv.tek.com> Jeff Chan <uunet!ames.arc.nasa.gov!chan> Jeff Makey <uunet!LOGICON.ARPA!Makey> Jeffrey James Bryan Carpenter <uunet!unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu!jjc> "Jeffrey R. Raff" (IBD Stdt Cont|G. Adams) <uunet!BRL.MIL!raff> Jerry B. Altzman <uunet!cunixc.cc.columbia.edu!jbaltz> Jim Davis <uunet!SCIENCE.UTAH.EDU!POSTMASTER> Joel B Levin <uunet!BBN.COM!levin> "John A. Ockerbloom" <uunet!YALE.ARPA!ockerbloom-john> John Bromell <uunet!camcon.co.uk!jyb> John Sparks <uunet!corpane!sparks> Jon Grantham <uunet!super.org!grantham> Karen Ward <uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!wardk%cse.ogc.edu> Keith Wandry- RCE <uunet!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!wandry> "Ken Kaufman" <uunet!gmuvax2.gmu.edu!kaufman> Kenneth A. Burgess <uunet!magellan.arc.nasa.gov!kburgess> Leila Burrell-Davis <uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!leilabd%syma.sussex.ac.uk> Lenny Glassmann <uunet!ccavax.camb.com!glassmann> Lez Oxley <uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!lezo%syma.sussex.ac.uk> Louis J. Vroomen <uunet!datac.McRCIM.McGill.EDU!vroomen> Mark Brader <uunet!sq.sq.com!msb> Mark Phillips <uunet!stl.stc.co.uk!msp> Matt S Wartell <uunet!unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu!msw> Michael Keane <uunet!space.mit.edu!mk%alioth> Michael Sanderson <uunet!cs.ubc.ca!sanders> Mitchell Spector <uunet!beaver.cs.washington.edu!sumax!spector> Norman Diamond <uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!diamond%csl.sony.jp> Norman Joseph <uunet!hc.dspo.gov!rt1!ditka!oglvee!norm> Patt Haring <uunet!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!patth> Peter B. Hayward <uunet!tank.uchicago.edu!pbhx> Philip Jeuck <uunet!unix.sri.com!jeuck> "REED CHRISTIANSEN" <uunet!chewi.che.wisc.edu!christiansen> Rich Hemmer <uunet!philabs.Philips.Com!vampire> Rich Salz <uunet!bbn.com!rsalz> "R.M. O'Neill" <uunet!sys.uea.ac.uk!cmp7130> Robert Knauerhase <uunet!alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu!rck> Roger Leroux <uunet!uvicctr.UVic.ca!rleroux1> Ron Bradley RCE <uunet!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!bradley> Ronald Khoo <uunet!ibmpcug.co.uk!ronald> Roy Smith <uunet!phri.phri.nyu.edu!roy> Roy Smith <uunet!phri!phri.phri.nyu.edu!roy> Samuel B. Bassett <uunet!magellan.arc.nasa.gov!samlb> Scott Huddleston <uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!scott%tekcrl.labs.tek.com> Seth Robertson <uunet!cunixc.cc.columbia.edu!sethr> sleepy!bugs!anthis (mike anthis) Steven Zepp <uunet!writer.yorku.ca!stevenz> Tad Guy <uunet!cs.odu.edu!tadguy> "Terry Roebuck, 56 Physics; 966-4841" <uunet!CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!ROEBUCK%ADSY05.USask.CA> Theodore Ts'o <uunet!ATHENA.MIT.EDU!tytso> Thomas Lapp <uunet!mvac23!thomas> "Tim J Ihde" <uunet!attdso.att.com!tim> Timo Kiravuo <uunet!hut.fi!kiravuo> Timo Salmi LASK<uunet!uwasa.fi!ts> "Tom Magliery (Mag)" <uunet!cs.uiuc.edu!magliery> uunet!afit-ab.arpa!slabovit (Stuart L. Labovitz) uunet!alias!repo!rae (Reid Ellis) <uunet!ames!ATHENA.MIT.EDU!mit-athena!artemis> uunet!angate.att.com!anuxh!jpw uunet!aplcen.apl.jhu.edu!arrom (Ken Arromdee (600.429)) uunet!apple.com!ames!kosman.UUCP!root (Root) uunet!apple.com!claris!skip (Brian Schipper) uunet!Atherton.COM!hpda!ericb (Eric Black) uunet!att!cblph!lml uunet!axion.bt.co.uk!nkings uunet!backus.trc.amoco.com!zjjb20 (John J. Bulten) uunet!bcstec!uucp uunet!blake.acs.washington.edu!wiml (William Lewis) uunet!bpa.bell-atl.com!jcm (Jim Metzger) uunet!budwzr.enet.dec.com!berger (AFTERBURNER) uunet!bu-it.bu.edu!ckd%bucsb.BU.EDU (Christopher K Davis) uunet!cals01.Newport.RI.US!cals (Charles A. Sefranek) uunet!canterbury.ac.nz!PHYS140 uunet!cbnews.ATT.COM!bhs (bruce.h.simon) uunet!cbnewsh.ATT.COM!wcs (Bill Stewart 201-949-0705 ho95c.att.com!wcs) uunet!cbnewsm.ATT.COM!tab (Tracey Baker) uunet!ccicpg!bohica!eddy (eddy keller) uunet!chg.mcd.mot.com!heiby (Ron Heiby) uunet!chg.mcd.mot.com!motmpl!ron (Ron Widell) uunet!cinnet!yun (Yun-seng Chao) uunet!compsci.bristol.ac.uk!mackeown uunet!condor.hac.com!dave (Dave England) uunet!cory.Berkeley.EDU!talvola (Erik Talvola) uunet!cpswh.cps.msu.edu!urban (Mark Urban-Lurain) uunet!cs.utexas.edu!gatech.edu!dtscp1!scott uunet!cs.utexas.edu!inebriae.WLK.COM!bill (Bill Kennedy) uunet!cs.utexas.edu!texbell!egsner!eric (Eric Schnoebelen) uunet!cs.utexas.edu!thalatta.com!polari!6sigma!blm uunet!CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!zifrony%TAURUS.BITNET uunet!dcisea!david uunet!devon.lns.pa.us!paul (Paul Sutcliffe Jr.) uunet!disney.crd.ge.com!streeter (ken streeter) uunet!dretor.dciem.dnd.ca!schuck (Mary Margaret Schuck) uunet!dtix.ARPA!fred (Blonder) uunet!ecicrl!clewis (Chris Lewis) uunet!elf115!rec (Roger Critchlow) uunet!elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov!nesel uunet!elxsi!len (Len Mills) uunet!emx.utexas.edu!phao172 (Randy M. Roberts) uunet!emx.utexas.edu!poole (Steve Poole) uunet!eniac.seas.upenn.edu!lewis (Matthew R. Lewis) uunet!enzyme.Berkeley.Edu!ichiro uunet!frith.egr.msu.edu!woertze (Erick B. Woertz) uunet!futures!fillorkill!scott (Scott Boyd) uunet!Galaxia.Newport.RI.US!dave (David H. Brierley) uunet!gatech.edu!rh26%prism (Howard,Robert L) uunet!gibbs.physics.purdue.edu!ray (Ray Moody) uunet!hal.CWRU.Edu!hal9000!root uunet!harvard!bunny!slzr (Suzanne Sluizer) uunet!icdi10!fr (Fred Rump from home) uunet!imada.dk!paw (Hermansen Paw) uunet!ingr!boyd uunet!ittg!pete (Pete Sherwood) uunet!jyu.fi!tarvaine (Tapani Tarvainen) uunet!kddlab!kddlab.kddlabs.junet!miyoko.stars.flab.fujitsu.junet!feldmark uunet!killer.Dallas.TX.US!wnp (Wolf Paul) uunet!ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu!tar (Tim Ramsey) uunet!ladc.bull.com!frank (Frank Mayhar) uunet!lily.ucdavis.edu!austin (Darren Austin) uunet!loria.crin.fr!tombre (Karl Tombre) uunet!math.liu.se!pomat (Pontus Matstoms) uunet!maxwell.concordia.ca!timl <uunet!mcvax!wsr!klement> uunet!med.unc.edu!danielg (Daniel Gene Sinclair) uunet!mica.stat.washington.edu!charlie (Charlie Geyer) uunet!microsoft!bethmo uunet!mimsy!asuvax.asu.edu!asuvax.anasaz!duane uunet!mimsy!scicom.alphacdc.com!cyrill (Cyro Lord) uunet!minnie.cc.utexas.edu!larrym (Laurence Macgregor Michaels) uunet!motto!dave (dave brown) uunet!mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us!mju (Marc Unangst) uunet!narya.att.com!sjf (Susan J Flaster) uunet!ncs.dnd.ca!pgauvin (Pierre Gauvin) uunet!Netsys.COM!len (Len Rose) uunet!nexus.yorku.ca!gall (Norman R. Gall) uunet!nisc.nyser.net!dwayne (Dwayne Herron) uunet!nlhp3.oracle.nl!bengsig (Bjorn Engsig) uunet!nluug.nl!shapetc!wilson (Tony Wilson) uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!alan%essex.ac.uk uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!dcw%doc.imperial.ac.uk uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!dente%ecad-lead-site.electrical-engineering.manchester.ac.uk uunet!NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!rpearce%stats.ucl.ac.uk uunet!omni.com!bob (Bob Weissman) uunet!ora!ambar uunet!pavlov.bcm.tmc.edu!rick (Richard H. Miller) uunet!pbseps!root (System Administrator) uunet!phoenix.Princeton.EDU!djgrabin (David Joseph Grabiner) uunet!pilot.njin.net!limonce (Tom Limoncelli) uunet!planet.bt.co.uk!gpc uunet!pnet51.cts.com!nevar (Karsten Smelser) uunet!polaris.utu.fi!moj (Matti O. Jokinen) uunet!prism.TMC.COM!billc (Bill Callahan) uunet!prism.TMC.COM!roskuski (Barry Roskuski) uunet!prosys!ath (Anders Thulin) uunet!psgdc!root uunet!psych.toronto.edu!chris uunet!RELAY.CS.NET!dmccart%cadedn.intel.com uunet!rutgers!nirvo!kdg uunet!sco.COM!davidbe (David Bedno) uunet!sequent!ogccse!servio!bruce (Bruce Schuchardt) uunet!splut.conmicro.com!jay (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard) uunet!ssbell!root (ssbell Admin) uunet!ssyx.ucsc.edu!avalon (Scott A. C. McIntyre) uunet!Sun.COM!portal!cup.portal.com!Tim_CDC_Roberts uunet!Sun.COM!steved (Steve Dever) uunet!sun!indetech!david (David Kuder) uunet!sunny.dab.ge.com!kelsen (Michael S. Kelsen) uunet!talos!kjones (Kyle Jones) uunet!tarpit!rd (Bob Thrush x210) uunet!tektronix.TEK.COM!fpssun.UUCP!sns4!mbn (Mike Northam ext 2651) uunet!teleng!gorpong (Gordon C. Galligher) uunet!thewev!root uunet!topaz.rutgers.edu!msmith (Mark Robert Smith) uunet!trout.nosc.mil!scott (Tim Scott) uunet!tusun2.knet.utulsa.edu!rlk ( Richard L. Kruse II) uunet!tut.fi!mk59200 uunet!tymix!antares.Tymnet.COM!dbilar (Dave Bilar) uunet!ugly.cs.ubc.ca!manderso (mark c anderson) uunet!uiucuxc!bilver!bill (Bill Vermillion) uunet!ulysses.att.com!andys uunet!unido!isaak!gauss!stippa (Joerg Stippa) uunet!unido!isaak!zuse!woerz (Dieter Woerz) uunet!uruguay.acm.rpi.edu!night (Trip Martin) uunet!utkcs2.cs.utk.edu!wade uunet!utstat.toronto.edu!webber uunet!verity.com!medmunds (Mike Edmunds x7645) uunet!vicorp!charlie (Charlie Goldensher) uunet!watmath!egvideo!edhew (Ed Hew) uunet!watmath!sce!cognos!roadrunner!mikel (Michael Lau) uunet!watmath!watcgl!electro!carlo (Carlo Sgro) uunet!wet!epsilon uunet!wimp.stanford.edu!aldrich (Jeff Aldrich) uunet!wpi.wpi.edu!susan (Susan C Wade) uunet!wrs!yuba!eric (Eric Stromberg) uunet!wubios.WUstl.EDU!phil (J. Philip Miller) uunet!xyzzy.auto-trol!jerlee (Jerry Lee) uunet!yin.cpac.washington.edu!pjt (Larry Setlow) Werner Uhrig <uunet!MCC.COM!werner%sw.MCC.COM>