[comp.misc] TRON: call for votes will not proceed

jdm@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (James D Mooney) (09/08/89)

In mid-July I posted a "call for discussion" for a possible new group
devoted to the TRON project, to be called "comp.std.tron."  Although
dozens of postings about TRON had appeared during the previous month,
I have seen no more than half a dozen since, only two of which were
direct responses to the call for discussion.

Therefore I conclude that there is not enough interest to proceed with
a call for votes at this time.  I apologize to anyone who may have
been waiting for this call.

Someone wondered if postings from Japan can freely reach USENET.  We
have seen some successful postings, but often delayed by several weeks.
I guess this is still an open question.

There has been some renewed discussion since NTT announced that it is
requiring use of TRON operating systems.  If TRON discussion picks
up, as I think it will eventually, I will try again to form a TRON
newsgroup.  Meanwhile, I suggest that TRON discussion be directed to
the most appropriate group depending on the specific topic:

	comp.arch	TRON CPU, buses, etc.
	comp.os.misc	TRON operating systems
	comp.realtime	Realtime aspects of TRON systems
	comp.std.misc	TRON as a collection of standards
	soc.culture.japan  cultural or political issues
	comp.misc	anything else about TRON

NOTE: this message is being posted to all relevant groups.  Please direct
any replies to a single group if possible (I read them all).

Jim Mooney				Dept. of Stat. & Computer Science
(304) 293-3607				West Virginia University
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mark@cblpf.ATT.COM (Mark Horton) (09/12/89)

In article <436@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu> jdm@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (James D Mooney) writes:
>Someone wondered if postings from Japan can freely reach USENET.  We
>have seen some successful postings, but often delayed by several weeks.
>I guess this is still an open question.

My understanding (somewhat out of date and from fuzzy memory) is that
the software is fully capable of sending out postings, but that
Japanese etiquette says that it is impolite for a random individual
to post to a worldwide forum without first getting permission from
someone very high up, such as the president of the company.  I do
believe that Japan *receives* nearly everything on Usenet.

There may be some automated software on gateways to force postings
to go through a moderator, which may involve a delay of weeks for
paper to be approved by a very busy person.

I can't recall whether this applies to email as well.  I have received
some email from Japan, but this may be the exception rather than the rule.