[comp.misc] Need Info on 24-pin Printers

macduff@cbnewse.ATT.COM (Roger R. Espinosa) (05/03/90)

Hi.

In about a month or so I'll be needing a new printer for my new
computer.  While it *isn't* an IBM compatible, it needs a printer,
and since magazines show more ads of laser printers these days
than dot matrix...I'm coming to all of yous for some advice/help/info
concerning 24-pin printers.

What I know: Epson makes a few models of 24-pin printers, the most expensive
(for my needs) being the LQ-850, and the least being the LQ-510 (model numbers
may not be correct).  Yesterday leafing through a Computer Shopper, I found
ads for Panasonic printers (Epson compatible) that also listed models that
were cheaper than the Epsons.

What are the good 24-pin printers out there?  I think the street price for
the DeskJet+ has been about $475 (after the rebate), but the computer I'm
getting may only be able to access this in Epson-emulation mode.  I haven't
investigated what the DeskJet+ in Epson-emulation mode actually means (is
it emulating an LQ printer? or an RX/MX-printer? Is it slower? etc.), but
I know where I can find this info about.

The 24-pin printers, alas, I can only appeal to your wisdom. :-) 

What I'm looking for is a good 24-pin printer that is either about as much
as the street price of the DeskJet+ (which the LQ-850 doesn't seem to be), or
which 24-pin printers you like and would recommend.

Please e-mail replies. Thanks!

Roger
rre@ihlpn.ATT.COM

hbj@uafhcx.uucp (Bernard Johnson) (05/05/90)

In article <14549@cbnewse.ATT.COM>, macduff@cbnewse.ATT.COM (Roger R. Espinosa) writes:
> What are the good 24-pin printers out there?  I think the street price for
> the DeskJet+ has been about $475 (after the rebate), but the computer I'm
> getting may only be able to access this in Epson-emulation mode.  I haven't
> investigated what the DeskJet+ in Epson-emulation mode actually means (is
> it emulating an LQ printer? or an RX/MX-printer? Is it slower? etc.), but
> I know where I can find this info about.

Why would your *computer* only be able to use Epson-emulation mode?  It is the
software that you should worry about (Unless you are doing prt-scr or such).

The Epson emulation mode should probably NEVER be used as long as you have a
DeskJet or + driver.  The text from the emulator is up to par but the graphics
really stink because the emulator emulates an Epson FX-80 which is a 9-pin.  So
there goes you great 300x300 resolution!  Also the emulator is about $75.  I
can't tell any speed decrease when using mine (but I rarely use it).

> What I'm looking for is a good 24-pin printer that is either about as much
> as the street price of the DeskJet+ (which the LQ-850 doesn't seem to be), or
> which 24-pin printers you like and would recommend.

A few things to think about:   
	(1)  In my experience a 24 pin's LQ mode is nowhere near REAL LQ.  The
	DeskJet has a very nice LQ mode.  Don't let anyone tell you they can't tell
	the difference between a DeskJet printout and a LaserJet printout because it
	is easy to tell the difference in quality.

	(2)  If you get a DeskJet you will have to beware of sweaty hands, people
	who lick their finger to page through documents, rain, spit, etc.  Not
	really a problem for most of us, but the ink will smear if it gets wet.

	(3)  A good 24 pin will probably smoke the DeskJet in cps.  HP obviously
	didn't count the paper handling time into their published calculations (120
	cps LQ and 240 draft -- for DeskJet).

	(4)  There is still a lot of software that doesn't have a DeskJet driver
	whereas they will alway have a 24 pin driver.

	(5)  The font handling capabilities of the DeskJet is fairly impressive.  I
	don't know of any 24 pins that match up.  But what good is it if you don't
	need it?

I am not trying to sell a printer for HP or trying to keep anyone from buying a
HP printer, I am just giving a REAL world view of the difference between by
DeskJet and some of my friends 24 pins. 

> Please e-mail replies. Thanks!
> Roger
> rre@ihlpn.ATT.COM

I thought the net might like to see this too.

Bernard

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