cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (06/12/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 esd@liebert.uucp (Eric Scott Deese) (06/12/90)
In article <1990Jun11.221620.1398@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals >for many of the software packages available via USENET. [ lot's of stuff deleted ] >Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >making any profit on the deal. > >-- >Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., >uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 > Sterling, VA 22170 Well heck, why not make a (small) profit on it. While you are at it, why not just package up the binaries for 386/ix, ESIX, SCO UNIX and SCO XENIX. Try to include as much of the GNU stuff as possible. I'm currently working on the GNU stuff under SCO UNIX. I don't have the time to bother making money from my effort, but someone should be able to. (This could almost be construed as an offer to help Conner or Karl Denninger or any of you resellers that has the resell ability to do this.) I feel someone should be making all of this stuff available in a convenient installable form. Of course, you don't want to charge too much, or I won't be able to buy it from you ;-). It's all just a thought. Eric Deese (osu-cis!liebert!esd)
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (06/13/90)
In article <1990Jun12.144957.8879@liebert.uucp> esd@liebert.UUCP (Eric Scott Deese) writes: >Well heck, why not make a (small) profit on it. While you are at >it, why not just package up the binaries for 386/ix, ESIX, SCO UNIX >and SCO XENIX. Try to include as much of the GNU stuff as I am in the progress of putting everything together for a *source* tape that has the most recent source code for all of the programs in the manual set. However, the realistic costs for making and shipping a tape approach $100 which is too much for most people. (That is the price that I have the X11R4+fixes available for and only a few people have asked for it). I have not fully considered the problems with making a binary distribution, but I don't think they are small. Problems with configuration, maintenance updates, testing, QA, returns, etc all come to mind. -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (08/07/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (09/07/90)
This is the monthly posting announcing the availability of printed manuals
for many of the software packages available via USENET.
* I have added shipping costs for several locations outside North America. *
* If your location is not listed send me email & I will let you know what *
* the costs are. *
For those of you whom would like to get printed documents for many of the
software packages available via USENET, I have put together a troff formatted
8 1/2 x 5 1/2 manual set containing all of the following:
Manual 1: The user's/programmer's reference Manual (416 pages)
1. Introduction and permuted index (16 pages)
2. The following manual pages: (400 pages)
a2p.1 cpr.1 listalias.1 perl.1 rnmail.1
afio.1 diffc.1 matches.1 pnews.1 rz.1
answer.1 diskhog.1 mcc.1 postnews.1 s2p.1
autoreply.1 dviselect.1 merge.1 printmail.1 sz.1
btoa.1 elm.1 messages.1 rcs-intro.1 texi2roff.1
bytesplit.1 fastmail.1 minirb.1 rcs.1 undump.1
cdecl.1 filter.1 modem_break.1 rcsclean.1 vnews.1
cfman.1 frm.1 mush.1 rcsdiff.1 waitfor.1
checkalias.1 gcc.1 newalias.1 rcsfreeze.1 which.1
checknews.1 grep.1 newmail.1 rcsmerge.1 wnewmail.1
ci.1 ident.1 newsetup.1 readmsg.1 zcmp.1
co.1 inews.1 newsgroups.1 readnews.1 zless.1
compress.1 less.1 patch.1 rlog.1 zmore.1
compressdir.1 lesskey.1 pcomm.1 rn.1
ftw.3 getdate.3 scanargs.3 scandir.3
news-b.5 news.5 newsrc.5 rcsfile.5
mn.7
dcheck.8 inews.8 nohog.8 recnews.8 sendnews.8
expire-b.8 newsaux.8 pathalias.8 relaynews.8 uurec.8
expire.8 newsbatch.8 pexpire-b.8 rnews.8
fsanalyze.8 newsmail.8 pexpire.8 sendbatch.8
Manual 2: The user's/programmer's reference guide (596 pages)
1. B News: Copyright, How To Read the Network News, Installation guide,
How to use Usenet Effectively, Usenet Messages standard
2. C News: Installation, The Interface Between C News and the Outside
World
3. Elm: User guide, Reference guide, Config guide, Alias Users guide,
Filter System guide, Forms Mode Guide
4. GNU: gnu-cpp, gnu-cc, gnu-gdb, gnu-make gnu-tar
5. Pcomm: Pcomm Reference Manual
6. RCS: Design paper, Functions of RCS
This was all printed using eroff (a third party DWB package for 386/ix that
includes HPlaserjet and postscript support) on a Panasonic Laser Partner.
The final print was made on 60# paper which should hold up quite well under
heavy usage.
The cash discount price, including shipping, is as follows:
Virginia Continental Hawii/Alaska
US Canada
Manual set $42.60 $41.00 $46.50
Manual set with binders $55.64 $53.50 $59.00
Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not
making any profit on the deal.
Pricing outside of North America will be $35.50 for the manuals, $12.00
for the binders, plus applicable shipping/handling. Send me a message
telling me where you are and I will respond with the costs. Please note
that all payments must be in US dollars.
The cash price includes a 3 % discount, so the credit card pricing will be
3% higher. COD orders will also be accepted. The COD charge is $5.00.
To order a copy:
Send a check, money order, whatever to
Virtual Technologies Inc.
46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling VA 22170.
Make sure you include the following:
1. the check/money order made out to Virtual Technologies
2. Your street address (UPS will not deliver to a pobox)
3. Your uucp mail address in case I need to get in touch
with you.
For credit card orders:
call: (703) 430-9247 and have the following information available:
1. your credit card number
2. expiration date
3. Home phone number
4. Street address and billing address
5. Your uucp mail address.
You can also snail-mail all that info to our address. Email
credit card orders will not be accepted.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sample SHIPPING costs for overseas shipments
manuals without binders manuals with binders
Country Surface Air Surface Air
Finland $10.00(45.50) $30.00(65.50) $15.00(62.50) $46.00( 93.50)
England 7.00(42.50) 24.00(59.50) 9.00(56.50) 39.00( 86.50)
W. Germany 10.00(45.50) 26.00(61.50) 15.00(62.50) 38.00( 85.50)
Sweden 10.00(45.50) 30.00(65.50) 15.00(62.50) 46.00( 93.50)
Japan 10.00(45.50) 35.00(70.50) 15.00(62.50) 54.00(101.50)
New Zealand 10.00(45.50) 30.00(65.50) 15.00(62.50) 46.00( 93.50)
All costs are in $US. Number in parenthesis is the total cost including
shipping.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: ...... >Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >making any profit on the deal. Suggestion #1, Won't it be more convient for everyone who wants the docs to be able to fetch them from some ftp site if you put them there ? That way, you don't waste all your time and effort to print, bind and mail them while the users don't have to wait. They can print out the portions they need when they need them. Suggestion #2, you are not making any profit, while by addvertising on 10 or so groups world wide, you are costing someone some real money, and your customers are sending out some real $50 for each order. This then is not the thing worthy to do, is it ? To make the world turn, bussiness or individuals have to make profits, one way or another. And I sincerely hope you do. Otherwise, I suggest you go back to suggestion #1n Joe
scum@walney.walney.com (Steven C. Monroe) (09/10/90)
jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) writes: >In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >...... >>Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >>making any profit on the deal. > Suggestion #1, Won't it be more convient for everyone who wants the docs >to be able to fetch them from some ftp site if you put them there ? Gee whiz.. I don't have the original article but I think you missed the real point. Here the guy is, trying to help out (within reason I might add) and make a large portion of the usenet documentation available to people in hard copy. If you could tell me how to FTP printouts...... --------- Having spent time generating and printing the documents I would much rather be able to purchase them and use that generation time for other projects. > Suggestion #2, you are not making any profit, while by addvertising on >10 or so groups world wide, you are costing someone some real money, and >your customers are sending out some real $50 for each order. I just love these postings that blast someone for using other people for using other people's money, do it by posting rather than email. Does this make him a "Born Again _______" (You fill in the blank) ;-) >Joe
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (09/10/90)
In article <4547@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) writes: >In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >...... >>Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >>making any profit on the deal. > > Suggestion #1, Won't it be more convient for everyone who wants the docs >to be able to fetch them from some ftp site if you put them there ? That >way, you don't waste all your time and effort to print, bind and mail them >while the users don't have to wait. They can print out the portions they >need when they need them. If they have the software then they already have the manuals (in soft-copy). I took on this project when I saw a need for a printed manual set & after lots of discussion on the net back in january. Up to now, all of the feedback has been postitive. > Suggestion #2, you are not making any profit, while by addvertising on >10 or so groups world wide, you are costing someone some real money, and >your customers are sending out some real $50 for each order. This then >is not the thing worthy to do, is it ? To make the world turn, bussiness >or individuals have to make profits, one way or another. And I sincerely >hope you do. Otherwise, I suggest you go back to suggestion #1n No. We don't make any profit (especially not when you consider the time that I put into these things). This isn't our line of business (our business is UNIX related consulting) so it isn't a big deal if we don't make a profit. As far as the cost to the net, I would think that the cost of a single posting (cross posting does not send multiple articles) once a month is almost un-calculable and the fact that we continue to get orders following a posting shows that there is still a need. The fact that we have sold most of our first printing and are in the progress of starting the work on a second edition shows that the manuals have been well received. All of the people that have purchased the manuals have been very pleased with them. We have not received any complaints about the manual set (other than some typos, and that kind of stuff). -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170
lerman@stpstn.UUCP (Ken Lerman) (09/10/90)
In article <4547@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) writes: ->In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: ->...... >>Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not >>making any profit on the deal. -> -> Suggestion #1, Won't it be more convient for everyone who wants the docs ->to be able to fetch them from some ftp site if you put them there ? That ->way, you don't waste all your time and effort to print, bind and mail them ->while the users don't have to wait. They can print out the portions they ->need when they need them. -> -> Suggestion #2, you are not making any profit, while by addvertising on ->10 or so groups world wide, you are costing someone some real money, and ->your customers are sending out some real $50 for each order. This then ->is not the thing worthy to do, is it ? To make the world turn, bussiness ->or individuals have to make profits, one way or another. And I sincerely ->hope you do. Otherwise, I suggest you go back to suggestion #1n -> -> ->Joe Suggestion #3, keep doing what you are doing. I bought a copy of the manuals from you, and they are well worth the price. Since I am not on the Internet, suggestion #1 wouldn't work for met. Now what I need is for someone like you to make the code available on my favorite medium. Hmmm, UUNET will sell me 600 megabytes on 6250 bpi half inch tapes for $175. Wow. Now what I need is the disk space and time to do something with it all. Thanks again to Connor for the manuals. I couldn't print them for that. Ken
rmtodd@uokmax.uucp (Richard Michael Todd) (09/11/90)
lerman@stpstn.UUCP (Ken Lerman) writes: >Suggestion #3, keep doing what you are doing. I bought a copy of the >manuals from you, and they are well worth the price. Since I am not >on the Internet, suggestion #1 wouldn't work for met. Well, most of the software (and docs) mentioned is available for anon. ftp from osu-cis, but I must agree that the manual set is one heck of a deal. Consider: he wants ~$42 dollars for the set of docs consisting of ~1000 pages. Now, since I'm at a University with access to their laser printer pretty much at-cost, I could print out all that stuff. But in doing so, not only would I severely tick off the Student Assistant by making him change the paper tray all the time (those trays only hold ~100 sheets), but the University charges 10 cents per page, so that entire set of manuals would cost me $100 to print out myself, and it'd come out in 8-1/2x11 sheets instead of the smaller, more convenient 8-1/2x5-1/2 sheets of the Cahill manuals. See why I went with Conor Cahill's manual set? Even if I only need to use half of the documentation, I still come out ahead. >Now what I need is for someone like you to make the code available on >my favorite medium. Hmmm, UUNET will sell me 600 megabytes on 6250 >bpi half inch tapes for $175. Wow. Now what I need is the disk space >and time to do something with it all. Not to mention the time to get those tapes converted to something I can actually read (not having a 6250bpi 9-track on my Mac...) Agreed, the UUNET tapes are also a heck of a deal... Well, I'd like at the very least pointers to locating all the software mentioned. I know where to get most of the major software packages (C News, GCC, GDB, etc.) and in fact already have most of them, but pointers to the more obscure ones would be helpful. (Speaking of which, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the "pexpire" program for C News, that automatically lowers the expire times on newsgroups that nobody reads? Sounds like a really useful tool, and I don't recall finding it in any of the comp.sources groups...) -- Richard Todd rmtodd@chinet.chi.il.us or rmtodd@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu "Bible-punching heavyweight evangelistic boxing kangaroos..."
chandler@beagle.uucp (Jim Chandler) (09/12/90)
In article <4547@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu>, jliu@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Joe Liu) writes: > In article <1990Sep06.215045.25117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: > ...... > >Please note that this pricing is only "cost-recovery" pricing. We are not > >making any profit on the deal. > > Stuff deleted > > Joe A few of my friends and I think that this is a great service and wish that others would do something similar with other manuals. The X11 stuff from MIT off the tape would be a nice project. Those of us with limited resources think that this is great and very resonable. I got a copy of these manuals and have used them contantly since. How about it Virtual, why not 'publish' the X11R4 manuals off the tape or why dont you just format it all and uucp to me through Joe's machine. BTW I was serious about the X11 part. -- Jim Chandler asuvax!xroads!beagle!chandler chandler@beagle.UUCP
brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) (09/12/90)
In article <1990Sep11.034930.7175@uokmax.uucp> rmtodd@uokmax.uucp (Richard Michael Todd) writes: >more obscure ones would be helpful. (Speaking of which, does anyone know >where I can get a copy of the "pexpire" program for C News, that automatically >lowers the expire times on newsgroups that nobody reads? Sounds like a really >useful tool, and I don't recall finding it in any of the comp.sources groups...) Instead, why not have your feed site try dynafeed, which will stop it from *feeding* you groups that nobody reads, so that you don't have to worry about when they expire. (As soon as anybody resubscribes, the feed starts again, and some number of back articles are sent, too.) Ftp from uunet, ./ClariNet/dynafeed.tar.Z -- this is the beta, comments are encouraged. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473