[comp.misc] expression "on the rag"

mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) (12/29/90)

Looked through the jargon file for my favorite expression "on the
rag",  meaning the computer is having problems staying up.  Anyone
else familiar with it?  First heard it in 1987 at RPI.  We had an IBM
360/50 - then state of the art.  Averaged 50% downtime (real nightmare
- 4000 students sharing 4 keypunches - systems personnel had 2 more,
but frequently commandeered the students keypunches.  We also had
these weird plastic doohickies where you turned a dial to get the
right code and handpunched (usually very inaccurately) the codes.

Anyway,  whenever the system was down,  they hung a red flag on the
flagpole outside the center (probably not the current center).
Anybody have an earlier provenance?

'Tute sucks.

Albany is the asshole of the nation,  and Troy is six mile up.

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Dan Mercer
NCR Network Products Division      -        Network Integration Services
Reply-To: mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer)
"MAN - the only one word oxymoron in the English Language"

dgh@Unify.com (David Harrington) (01/04/91)

In article <807@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM>, mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan
Mercer) writes:
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> 
> Looked through the jargon file for my favorite expression "on the
> rag",  meaning the computer is having problems staying up.  Anyone
> else familiar with it?  First heard it in 1987 at RPI.  We had an IBM
                                            ^^^^

> 360/50 - then state of the art.  Averaged 50% downtime (real nightmare
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 A strange "state" of "art" indeed, for 1987 :-)

> - 4000 students sharing 4 keypunches - systems personnel had 2 more,
> but frequently commandeered the students keypunches.  We also had
> these weird plastic doohickies where you turned a dial to get the
> right code and handpunched (usually very inaccurately) the codes.
> 
> Anyway,  whenever the system was down,  they hung a red flag on the
> flagpole outside the center (probably not the current center).
> Anybody have an earlier provenance?
> 
> 'Tute sucks.
> 

As to your question, uh, OTR has, well, *biological*, rather than *electronic*
origins.  Ask any woman.
 
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borasky@ogicse.ogi.edu (M. Edward Borasky) (01/04/91)

In article <807@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM> mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) writes:
>else familiar with it?  First heard it in 1987 at RPI.  We had an IBM
>360/50 - then state of the art.
This has GOT to be a typo -- surely you mean 1967!!!  A 360/50 was 
ANNOUNCED in 1964; first delivered in 1965, I think.  State of the art
in 1987?  No way!
>Averaged 50% downtime (real nightmare
Maybe it WAS 1987 -- a 20-year old machine might get 50% uptime.
>Albany is the asshole of the nation,  and Troy is six miles up.
Put THAT in your jargon file!

bill@platypus.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) (01/05/91)

In article <1991Jan3.084723@Unify.com>, dgh@Unify.com (David Harrington) writes:
> In article <807@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM>, mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan
> Mercer) writes:
> >                         First heard it in 1987 at RPI.  We had an IBM
>                                             ^^^^
> > 360/50 - then state of the art.  Averaged 50% downtime (real nightmare
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  A strange "state" of "art" indeed, for 1987 :-)

Remember though, we are talking about RPI here!!   :-)




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