eli@pws.bull.com (Steve Elias) (02/03/91)
STATISTICS UPDATE FEBRUARY 3, 1991 HEADHUNTERS SCAMMING ON USENET Each count in the table below is the number of net.people trying to use the net to sell mostly worthless information about the Boston job market, or lack of same. !-----------------------------------------------------------------! ! NET.SCAMMER ORGANIZATION RAISON D'ETRE ! !-----------------------------------------------------------------! 1 JOEL NAROD HARVARD UNIVERSITY UNKNOWN This data is from my opinion and assessments about the boston job market and Narod's intentions as reported by someone who tried to get more detailed information out of him. Thanks for your many email expressions of interest and appreciation. -- /* Salaam, not Saddam. */ /* eli@spdcc.com eli@pws.bull.com 617 932 5598 508 294 7556 */
herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick) (02/05/91)
In article <20814@know.pws.bull.com>, eli@pws.bull.com (Steve Elias) writes: > STATISTICS UPDATE FEBRUARY 3, 1991 HEADHUNTERS SCAMMING ON USENET > > Each count in the table below is the number of net.people trying > to use the net to sell mostly worthless information about > the Boston job market, or lack of same. > > This data is from my opinion and assessments about the boston > job market and Narod's intentions as reported by someone who > tried to get more detailed information out of him. > > Thanks for your many email expressions of interest and appreciation. > Dear Steve, Back last August, or thereabouts, in a discussion of contractor marketing on misc.jobs.contract, Joel told us of his database of information about employment ads in the Boston Globe. I told him that database would be valuable to other contractors in the Boston area. Joel disappeared from the net. Recently he reappeared, saying he had spent the intervening time programming the database to allow him to provide inquiries into it to other contractors. Joel is reporting real numbers about companies who have paid millions of dollars for those ads in the Sunday Boston Globe. There is no misrepresentation. The information he is posting is valuable in itself. It would be more valuable if he would put three or four consecutive weeks counts beside the corresponding counts for three months and a year earlier. The information about last week is easily verifiable or deniable - go to a library somewhere around Boston and look at last Sunday's Globe. If there were, indeed, fewer than 80 (I don't remember this week's number) employment ads containing the keywords he names, then you can call him a liar and make it stick. However, what I see is Joel has spent several hours carefully collecting data out of the Sunday Boston Globe, and has been kind enough to freely share some of that data with us. On the other hand, you have vented your frustrations by calling him names. Joel has done us a bigger service than you have. If you are in the Boston area and trying to find a job, there are many on the net who will gladly help you change your jobhunting techniques to ones that work better. Joel Narod is one of them. He has some very good marketing advice to offer that he has freely posted before. dan herrick herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com To the rest of you, I apologize for putting this personal communication in such a widely distributed forum, but these attempts at character assassination should be countered where they have been displayed.