mike@yenta.alb.nm.us (Mike Werner) (03/27/91)
Help, Can anyone explain to me what an anonomous ftp site is and how do you access one once you have the correct address? -Mike- -- "In my lifetime I hope to develop arms that are strong, hands that are gentle, ears that will listen, eyes that are kind, a tongue that will speak softly, a mind full of wisdom, a heart that understands."
jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) (04/03/91)
FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol. It is a protocol for transferring files over TCP networks. It is most often used on the Internet, but can be used on local-area TCP networks as well. Internet Request For Comment (RFC) 1206, "Answers to Commonly asked 'New Internet User' Questions," has the following to say about anonymous FTP (on page 15): Anonymous FTP is a conventional way of allowing you to sign on to a computer on the Internet and copy specified public files from it [3]. Some sites offer anonymous FTP to distribute software and various kinds of information. You use it like any FTP, but the username is "anonymous". Many systems will allow any password and request that the password you choose is your userid. If this fails, the generic password is usually "guest". The [3] reference in this paragraph is: [3] Postel, J., and J. Reynolds, "File Transfer Protocol (FTP), RFC 959, USC/Information Sciences Institute, October 1985. The introduction to RFC 959 says: The objectives of FTP are 1) to promote sharing of files (computer programs and/or data), 2) to encourage indirect or implicit (via programs) use of remote computers, 3) to shield a user from variations in file storage systems among hosts, and 4) to transfer data reliably and efficiently. FTP, though usable directly by a user at a terminal, is designed mainly for use by programs. The attempt in this specification is to satisfy the diverse needs of users of maxi-hosts, mini-hosts, personal workstations, and TACs, with a simple, and easily implemented protocol design. This paper assumes knowledge of the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) [2] and the Telnet Protocol [3]. These documents are contained in the ARPA-Internet protocol handbook [1]. I have included instructions at the end of this message for getting copies of RFCs in case you want to read more from either of these. Two questions remain -- how to find out what anonymous ftp sites there are, and how to access them. There are several ways to find anonymous ftp sites. 1) Read the list of anonymous ftp sites posted monthly by Jon Granrose in comp.misc, comp.sources.wanted, and alt.sources.wanted. If you missed it and/or want to make sure that your copy is up-to-date, and you don't want to wait for it to be posted again, you can follow the directions at the end of this message for getting a copy of it. Since his list is a periodic informational posting which appears in the list of periodic informational postings in news.announce.newusers, you can also get it from my FAQ archive; I've included directions for that as well. 2) Read comp.archives. 3) Use archie, which keeps a database of many anonymous ftp sites and their contents. To use archie interactively, telnet to quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (132.206.2.3 or 132.206.51.1) and log in as "archie" with no password; type "help" to get help. To use it via E-mail, send a message to "archie@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca"; send a message with contents "help" to get an introductory message. There are two main methods of accessing anonymous ftp sites. If you are on the Internet, you access it directly, usually using the "ftp" command. If you are directly on the Internet and "ftp anonymous-ftp-site-name" doesn't open up a connection to the site, you should talk to your admin and find out what the story is. If ftp does work for you, it would be useful to read the man page for it. (All this assumes Unix; I don't know what the story is on non-Unix machines, e.g. VM/CMS or VMS, directly on the Internet. Furthermore, things Macs and PCs on the Internet often have ftp software.) If you aren't on the Internet, you can use a mail<->ftp gateway to retrieve files from anonymous ftp sites. You should only do this if you're sure that the stuff you're trying to get via anonymous ftp isn't also available from a mail server somewhere, since the mail<->ftp gateways are usually overloaded. The most well-known gateway is bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu. To find out how to use it, send a mail message to that site with contents "help". -- Jonathan Kamens USnail: MIT Project Athena 11 Ashford Terrace jik@Athena.MIT.EDU Allston, MA 02134 Office: 617-253-8085 Home: 617-782-0710 -- Getting RFCs Many RFCs are available online; if not, this is indicated by (Not online). Paper copies of all RFCs are available from the NIC, either individually or on a subscription basis (for more information contact NIC@NIC.DDN.MIL). Online copies are available via FTP or Kermit from NIC.DDN.MIL as RFC:RFC####.TXT or RFC:RFC####.PS (#### is the RFC number without leading zeroes). Additionally, RFCs may be requested through electronic mail from the automated NIC mail server by sending a message to SERVICE@NIC.DDN.MIL with a subject line of "RFC ####" for text versions or a subject line of "RFC ####.PS" for PostScript versions. To obtain the RFC index, the subject line of your message should read "RFC index". -- Getting Jon Granrose's anonymous ftp list This list is posted to comp.misc, and comp.sources.wanted, on Usenet and is distributed via anonymous FTP from pilot.njin.net (128.6.7.38) as well as being available from several other FTP sites (see list). I am also running a simple mail-server from my account on pilot. For more information about the server, mail odin@pilot.njin.net with a subject of "listserv-request" and a message body of "send help". Rather than requesting the latest list from me by mail, simply send the request to the listserv. If you send me a request for the latest list, I will send you the help file for the listserv. -- Getting the anonymous ftp list from my FAQ archive Subject: Anonymous FTP list Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted Available via anonymous ftp from pit-manager.mit.edu (18.72.1.58) in the files /pub/usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part1 /pub/usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part2 /pub/usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part3 Available from mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu by sending a message containing send usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part1 send usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part2 send usenet/comp.misc/Anonymous_FTP_list.part3