[net.unix-wizards] Decnet protocols?

gamiddleton@thunder.UUCP (Guy Middleton) (12/03/84)

Does anybody know if there is anybody working on putting the Decnet
protocols into 4.2bsd?  I have been considering trying this myself, but it
doesn't look too easy...
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	Guy Middleton, Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ont.
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phil@amdcad.uucp (12/09/84)

> Does anybody know if there is anybody working on putting the Decnet
> protocols into 4.2bsd?

I don't know about 4.2bsd but I hear rumors that Ultrix32 will have
it soon. (that is, if you run Ultrix32 you can talk decnet but
DEC will likely not sell you source to the decnet code so you can
stick it into your 4.2bsd kernel)

-- 
 I'm not a programmer, I'm a hardware type.

 Phil Ngai (408) 749-5790
 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil
 ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.ARPA

schoff@cadtroy.UUCP (Martin Lee Schoffstall) (12/13/84)

> 
> I don't know about 4.2bsd but I hear rumors that Ultrix32 will have
> it soon. (that is, if you run Ultrix32 you can talk decnet but
> DEC will likely not sell you source to the decnet code so you can
> stick it into your 4.2bsd kernel)
> 

It will be using the socket abstraction.  This was chosen for the purpose
of getting a product out quickly.

marty
schoff@cadmusv.ARPA

joe@fluke.UUCP (Joe Kelsey) (12/18/84)

> I don't know about 4.2bsd but I hear rumors that Ultrix32 will have
> it soon. (that is, if you run Ultrix32 you can talk decnet but
> DEC will likely not sell you source to the decnet code so you can
> stick it into your 4.2bsd kernel)
>  Phil Ngai (408) 749-5790

I just got back from DECUS and I can answer these questions:

1) DECnet support for Ultrix-32 will be announced in the Spring.  They
demonstrated it at DECUS and I talked extensively with the author about it.
It looks like a good product, although I would rather that VMS ran TCP/IP
better...

2) DEC will sell you Ultrix sources fro about $7500.  This is under the
standard source poicy which means you can use it internally, but not
externally.  If you have DECnet on Ultrix, why bother porting it to 4.2
(re-inventing the wheel?)  Of course, you are free to do whatever you want
with it as long as you don't give it to anyone else.  This is the same as
the current AT&T licenses.

/Joe