flinton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (12/14/89)
In article <317@usna.MIL>, baldwin@usna.MIL (J.D. Baldwin) : > ... "What is with this character set?" ... everything I type > (or is typed back to me) is in "garbage" characters--the character set seems > to have been mapped to the upper half of the IBM extended character set. > > In any case, I got several answers ...[among them:] ... echo "^V^O" I've used a similar ploy on the VT-220 and VT-320 terminals Wesleyan uses w/ its VAX -- only I enter Set-Up, change On-Line to Local, exit Set-Up, press <ctrl>-O, re-enter Set-Up, change back to On-Line, re-exit Set-Up, done (and it's fewer keystrokes than the DCL-ish monstrosity WRITE SYS$OUT "<ctrl>-V<ctrl>-O" one must use where echo "^V^O" should do. Same explanation -- something sent the terminal a <ctrl>-N to select the "wrong" 128-character font-set, and the terminal needs to see a <ctrl>-O to get back to normal. Actually, I'm in the habit of selecting Clear Comm, too, while I'm in Set-Up, because, as often as not, the terminal has also seen a <ctrl>-S (or other keyboard-locking escape sequence) and is therefore locked up -- Clear Comm seems to fix that. -- Fred
ehrlich@cs.psu.edu (Daniel Ehrlich) (02/08/90)
Board Distribution: world Hello, I am looking for a way to hook up one of those moving LED message display boards to one of our computers and need information on availability, etc. I have seen one called `Moving Message', but I do not know who the manufacturer is. Does anyone know of this equipment or anything similar that can be plugged into a RS-232 interface? Thanks in advance. -- Dan Ehrlich <ehrlich@cs.psu.edu> Voice: +1 814 863 1142 FAX: +1 814 865 3176
banksie@whitu.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Philip Banks) (01/23/91)
Sorry to bother netters but a friend of mine who isn't net connected is
interested in Geographic Information Software (GIS),Land Information
Software (LIS) and related databases to this. He doesn't care what kind
of hardware they run on all he is interested in is what they do. The
reason he is looking for them is because has written a software package
for the Archimedes to do this kind of work and he wishes to compare
what he has written with comercially available software and see it is
good enough to be sent to a software house. And me being the eternal
mugins suggested sending a request for information out on the net.
Accordingly if you know of any software that are of the types above
could you please send a short email summary of what the sofware is,
what is can/cannot do,what hardware it runs on and an idea of how
much it costs. If you send the email to me I will forward it on to
him.
Any help would very much appreciated,
Philip R. Banks.
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| BANKSie! (aka Philip Banks) banksie@isor.vuw.ac.nz | @@@@@/#|
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*-----------------------------------------------------------------* @@/ |jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) (03/29/91)
ety,comp.software-eng,comp.text,comp.text.desktop,sci.lang,comp.doc,comp.editors ,comp.cog-eng,sci.astro,sci.bio,sci.environment,sci.skeptic Subject: Update on fate of SCI.TECH-COMM proposal Date: 28-MAR-1991 21:32:20 GMT Expires: References: Sender: Reply-To: jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov Followup-To: news.groups Distribution: world Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA Keywords: News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Thank you, everyone, for your responses to the proposal for SCI.TECH-COMM, a newsgroup about technical writing and other forms of professional communication. Much has happened in the past three weeks; here is an update. Several well-reasoned arguments persuaded me to fold my proposal into a more or less simultaneous discussion of another proposal, MISC.WRITING. Its leading proponent is L.A.Z. Smith (leah@smith.chi.il.us). I think that, with appropriate use of keywords, we can make scholarly and practical discussions of technical writing coexist with other discussions in that broadly defined newsgroup. The proposed charter for MISC.WRITING is currently being argued about in NEWS.GROUPS, the newsgroup about newsgroups. (I post this here because the MISC.WRITING Request for Discussion did not seem to make it very far into the sci. and comp. hierarchies, where most of the interest in SCI.TECH-COMM was found.) The relevant Subject: lines are Call for Discussion: SCI.TECH-COMM and RFD: MISC.WRITING (note the two spaces). If you're interested, you might want to drop in. Followups are directed there exclusively. --Joe
wieckows@cs.umn.edu (Zbigniew Wieckowski) (04/22/91)
I was once challenged by my Pascal course lecturer to write a self-replicable
program. I was a freshman at the Warsaw Technical University. I made an effort
to reconstruct the program now.
Can anybody think of a sequence of procedure calls after 'begin' that could form
an English language sentence? (by permutating procedures)
Has anyone written such program in Cobol or Fortran?
IMPORTANT:
Copyright is granted after you send $1 (one dollar) to:
Zbigniew Wieckowski
712 Osceola Ave. Apt#1
St.Paul, MN 55105
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program Selfish(output);
var procname: char;
procedure a; begin write('program Selfish(output);') end;
procedure b; begin writeln end;
procedure c; begin write('var procname: char;') end;
procedure d; begin write('procedure ') end;
procedure e; begin procname:= 'a' end;
procedure f; begin write(procname) end;
procedure g; begin write('; begin write(') end;
procedure h; begin write('''') end;
procedure i; begin write(') end;') end;
procedure j; begin procname:= chr(ord(procname)+1) end;
procedure k; begin write('; begin writeln end;') end;
procedure l; begin h;i;b;d;j;f end;
procedure m; begin write('; begin procname:= ') end;
procedure n; begin write('a') end;
procedure o; begin write(' end;') end;
procedure p; begin write('procname') end;
procedure q; begin write('; begin procname:= chr(ord(procname)+1) end;') end;
procedure r; begin write('; begin h;i;b;d;j;f end;') end;
procedure s; begin write('begin a;b;c;b;d;e;f;g;h;a;h;i;b;d;j;f;k;b;d;j;') end;
procedure t; begin write('f;g;h;c;l;g;h;d;l;m;h;n;h;o;b;d;j;f;g;p;i;b;d;') end;
procedure u; begin write('j;f;g;h;g;l;g;h;h;h;l;g;h;i;l;q;b;d;j;f;g;h;k;') end;
procedure v; begin write('l;r;b;d;j;f;g;h;m;l;g;h;n;l;g;h;o;l;g;h;p;l;g;') end;
procedure w; begin write('h;q;l;g;h;r;l;g;h;s;l;g;h;t;l;g;h;u;l;g;h;v;l;') end;
procedure x; begin write('g;h;w;l;g;h;x;l;g;h;y;l;g;h;z;h;i;b;s;b;t;b;u;') end;
procedure y; begin write('b;v;b;w;b;x;b;y;b;z;b end.') end;
procedure z; begin write('{ Copyright 1984,1991 by Zbigniew Wieckowski }') end;
begin a;b;c;b;d;e;f;g;h;a;h;i;b;d;j;f;k;b;d;j;
f;g;h;c;l;g;h;d;l;m;h;n;h;o;b;d;j;f;g;p;i;b;d;
j;f;g;h;g;l;g;h;h;h;l;g;h;i;l;q;b;d;j;f;g;h;k;
l;r;b;d;j;f;g;h;m;l;g;h;n;l;g;h;o;l;g;h;p;l;g;
h;q;l;g;h;r;l;g;h;s;l;g;h;t;l;g;h;u;l;g;h;v;l;
g;h;w;l;g;h;x;l;g;h;y;l;g;h;z;h;i;b;s;b;t;b;u;
b;v;b;w;b;x;b;y;b;z;b end.
{ Copyright 1984,1991 by Zbigniew Wieckowski }
-------------------------------------------------------tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey) (04/22/91)
wieckows@cs.umn.edu (Zbigniew Wieckowski) writes: >IMPORTANT: > Copyright is granted after you send $1 (one dollar) to: > Zbigniew Wieckowski > 712 Osceola Ave. Apt#1 > St.Paul, MN 55105 What exactly will my $1.00 get me? The right to make copies of your program? Too late. That's been done automatically by thousands of systems all over the world. You'd better hire a *big* law firm to go get those $1.00 fees everyone owes you. Oh, and keep the commercial postings in the appropriate groups. biz.* would be appropriate. -- Tim Ramsey/system administrator/tar@math.ksu.edu/(913) 532-6750/2-7004 (FAX) Department of Mathematics, Kansas State University, Manhattan KS 66506-2602 -- Have you hugged your Diet Pepsi today?
wieckows@cs.umn.edu (Zbigniew Wieckowski) (04/22/91)
I was once challenged by my Pascal course lecturer to write a self-replicable
program. I was a freshman at the Warsaw Technical University. I made an effort
to reconstruct the program now.
Can anybody think of a sequence of procedure calls after 'begin' that could form
an English language sentence? (by permutating procedures)
Has anyone written such program in Cobol or Fortran?
I apologize for my earlier posting. After a while I agree with David (University
of Minnesota) who called it "crass, rude, annoying and contrary to the manner in
which U of MN is connected to the rest of the world. Thank you.
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program Selfish(output);
var procname: char;
procedure a; begin write('program Selfish(output);') end;
procedure b; begin writeln end;
procedure c; begin write('var procname: char;') end;
procedure d; begin write('procedure ') end;
procedure e; begin procname:= 'a' end;
procedure f; begin write(procname) end;
procedure g; begin write('; begin write(') end;
procedure h; begin write('''') end;
procedure i; begin write(') end;') end;
procedure j; begin procname:= chr(ord(procname)+1) end;
procedure k; begin write('; begin writeln end;') end;
procedure l; begin h;i;b;d;j;f end;
procedure m; begin write('; begin procname:= ') end;
procedure n; begin write('a') end;
procedure o; begin write(' end;') end;
procedure p; begin write('procname') end;
procedure q; begin write('; begin procname:= chr(ord(procname)+1) end;') end;
procedure r; begin write('; begin h;i;b;d;j;f end;') end;
procedure s; begin write('begin a;b;c;b;d;e;f;g;h;a;h;i;b;d;j;f;k;b;d;j;') end;
procedure t; begin write('f;g;h;c;l;g;h;d;l;m;h;n;h;o;b;d;j;f;g;p;i;b;d;') end;
procedure u; begin write('j;f;g;h;g;l;g;h;h;h;l;g;h;i;l;q;b;d;j;f;g;h;k;') end;
procedure v; begin write('l;r;b;d;j;f;g;h;m;l;g;h;n;l;g;h;o;l;g;h;p;l;g;') end;
procedure w; begin write('h;q;l;g;h;r;l;g;h;s;l;g;h;t;l;g;h;u;l;g;h;v;l;') end;
procedure x; begin write('g;h;w;l;g;h;x;l;g;h;y;l;g;h;z;h;i;b;s;b;t;b;u;') end;
procedure y; begin write('b;v;b;w;b;x;b;y;b;z;b end.') end;
procedure z; begin write('{ Copyright 1984,1991 by Zbigniew Wieckowski }') end;
begin a;b;c;b;d;e;f;g;h;a;h;i;b;d;j;f;k;b;d;j;
f;g;h;c;l;g;h;d;l;m;h;n;h;o;b;d;j;f;g;p;i;b;d;
j;f;g;h;g;l;g;h;h;h;l;g;h;i;l;q;b;d;j;f;g;h;k;
l;r;b;d;j;f;g;h;m;l;g;h;n;l;g;h;o;l;g;h;p;l;g;
h;q;l;g;h;r;l;g;h;s;l;g;h;t;l;g;h;u;l;g;h;v;l;
g;h;w;l;g;h;x;l;g;h;y;l;g;h;z;h;i;b;s;b;t;b;u;
b;v;b;w;b;x;b;y;b;z;b end.
{ Copyright 1984,1991 by Zbigniew Wieckowski }
-------------------------------------------------------diamond@jit345.swstokyo.dec.com (Norman Diamond) (04/22/91)
In article <1991Apr21.190046.12361@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey) writes: >wieckows@cs.umn.edu (Zbigniew Wieckowski) writes: >> Copyright is granted after you send $1 (one dollar) to: >> Zbigniew Wieckowski >What exactly will my $1.00 get me? The right to make copies of your program? No. If you send him $1.00, then someone (who?) will grant copyright on the program. If you don't send him $1.00, then there is no copyright and the program is in the public domain. -- Norman Diamond diamond@tkov50.enet.dec.com If this were the company's opinion, I wouldn't be allowed to post it.