[sci.space.shuttle] Apparent SRB Flame Plume

elturner@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin L Turner) (09/30/88)

According to the NYC 11pm CBS news tonight, NASA "is studying" the apparent 
SRB flame plume "to determine its nature and significance".

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ziegler@lznv.ATT.COM (J.ZIEGLER) (09/30/88)

When I first saw the alleged flame plume I though the same thing. 
But after seeing it on reply and watching it closely, I decided that
it looked more like a reflection generated in or very near the
camera's lens - a very common phenomenon with a lens that long. 
That theory nicely explains why it seemed to move around an change
shape so much - it was moving with the camera, not the shuttle.

I'm not an expert, and a close examination of the SRB is warranted,
but if they say they can't find anything, I'd believe them.

		Joe Ziegler
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those of any employer, much less mine.

tneff@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Neff) (10/02/88)

I see two separate, potentially disturbing things when I replay the
launch.  First, just as Discovery clears the tower and for a couple of
seconds afterward, there is a definite extra plume coming from the
starboard SRB at the case-to-nozzle joint on the inboard side.  This
is not a camera reflection or layer separation (or swamp gas).  If NASA
refuses to say anything about this after the flight I am mailing a
videocassette to my congressman.

Then, from about T+60 to T+100 seconds, there is that mass of yellow
flame visible aft of the ET and "between" the SRB skirts, similar to
what we saw on Challenger before the breakup.  Is this a normal aerodynamic
effect (if so, may I say this is not the most comforting news I have been
given lately) or is it from an unwanted flame plume?

Was Discovery's ascent really "nominal" as we were all thrilled to hear
CAPCOM tell the crew after MECO -- or are we lucky they're alive at all?
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