[sci.space.shuttle] Long Duration Exposure Facility

talon@blake.acs.washington.edu (Steve Hamblin) (02/14/89)

A few months back, I heard that the LDEF (Long Duration Exposure
Facility) was going to re-enter the atmosphere due to a rapidly 
decaying orbit.

Has this taken place yet?

						- Steve Hamblin



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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/15/89)

In article <872@blake.acs.washington.edu> talon@blake.acs.washington.edu (Steve Hamblin) writes:
>A few months back, I heard that the LDEF (Long Duration Exposure
>Facility) was going to re-enter the atmosphere due to a rapidly 
>decaying orbit.  Has this taken place yet?

No.  But if they don't retrieve it within a year or so, it might.
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kenny@m.cs.uiuc.edu (02/15/89)

>A few months back, I heard that the LDEF (Long Duration Exposure
>Facility) was going to re-enter the atmosphere due to a rapidly 
>decaying orbit.

>Has this taken place yet?

No.  LDEF retrieval is manifested for STS-32 this November.

STS-32 vital data:
launch: 89-11-13
vehicle: Columbia
inclination: 28.5 degrees
alt: 190 nautical miles 
duration: 5 days [Plans to extend to 10]
primary mission: SYNCOM IV-05 communications satellite deployment
primary mission: LDEF-1 revisit
secondary mission: IMAX filming, flight 02
Crew:	Capt. Daniel Brandenstein, USN, commander
	Lt. Cmdr. James Wetherbee, USN, pilot
	Dr. Bonnie Dunbar, mission specialist
	Mr. David Low, mission specialist
	Ms. Marsha Ivins, mission specialist

Brandenstein has previously flown as pilot of STS-8 (8/30/83), and as
commander os STS-18 (51-G) (6/17/85).  Dunbar has been to space aboard
STS-22 (10/30/85).  The three remaining crew members are making their
first spaceflights.

Orbital elements and motion of the LDEF are (as of 5 February, 3 AM
EST) follow.  Note that in the nine months between now and its
retrieval, LDEF's orbit will have decayed from its current altitude of
236 nautical miles to 190.

Two-line elements for LDEF       
1 14898U          89 36.36470616 0.00022738           50860-3 0  7451
2 14898  28.5100  19.2599 0002164 203.0911 157.0735 15.42035305271020

Object: LDEF       
NORAD catalog number: 14898
Element set: 745
Epoch revolution: 27102
Epoch time: 89036.36470616 (Sun Feb  5 08:45:10 UTC)
Inclination: 28.5100 degrees
RA of node: 19.2599 degrees
Eccentricity: 0.0002164
Argument of periapsis: 203.0911 degrees
Mean anomaly: 157.0735 degrees
Mean motion: 15.42035305 revs / day
Mean motion acceleration: 0.00022738 * 2 revs / day**2
B* drag term: 5.0860e-04

Derived figures:
Semimajor axis: 6816.07 km.
Perifocal radius: 6814.59 km.
Apogee height: 439.395 km.
Perigee height: 436.445 km.
Mean longitude at the epoch: 0.3390 degrees.
Magnitudes of short-period perturbations of the second harmonic:
	Radius vector magnitude: +/-0.37 km.
	True anomaly: +/-0.0299 degrees.
	RA of node: +/-0.0358 degrees.
	Inclination: +/-0.0171 degrees.
Secular perturbations of the second harmonic:
	Argument of perigee: 11.2915 degrees/day
	RA of node: -6.9365 degrees/day
	Mean anomaly: included in published mean motion.
Long-period perturbation of the third harmonic: X=-1.031e-03, Y=-5.237e-04


Source: NASA Goddard via TS Kelso's `Celestial RCP/M'

NOTE: Apogee and perigee heights are referred to a mean equatorial radius
      of 6378.145 km, and not to the local radius of the geoid.
      All derived quantities are calculated using the NORAD SGP model of
      Hilton and Kuhlman.

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mears@hpindda.HP.COM (David B. Mears) (02/17/89)

Here's a request for speculation.

When we finally get the LDEF back (assuming we are successful), there
seem to me to be at least two possibilities of what we will find.  I'm
curious what other people think.  It seems to me like we will either
find that

	1) Many (most?  all?)  of the experiments have been ruined by
	   the longer than planned exposure and that we end up not
	   gaining very much at all from the experiment.

				OR

	2) we discover some strange and completely unexpected results
	   that turn out to be very important to the scientific
	   community.  This is what I tend to call the `Penicillin
	   Syndrome'.

Personally, I hope that result 2) above is what happens, but that maybe
more wishful thinking on my part than anything else.  What do you think?

David B. Mears
Hewlett-Packard
Cupertino CA
hplabs!hpda!mears

sealion@blake.acs.washington.edu (sealion) (05/13/89)

With the current backlog in payloads for the shuttle system, are 
there plans to recover the Long Duration Exposure Facility?

Thanks.


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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (05/14/89)

In article <2020@blake.acs.washington.edu> sealion@blake.acs.washington.edu (sealion) writes:
>With the current backlog in payloads for the shuttle system, are 
>there plans to recover the Long Duration Exposure Facility?

Yes.  NASA is terrified of the public-relations impact of another Skylab,
and considers it quite urgent that LDEF not be allowed to reenter.
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cdaf@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles Daffinger) (05/14/89)

In article <1989May13.202819.23389@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
>Yes.  NASA is terrified of the public-relations impact of another Skylab,
>and considers it quite urgent that LDEF not be allowed to reenter.

Just a silly question...  How much different is the orbit of LDEF to that
which the shuttle took to launch Magellan?  Would it have been possible
to retrieve LDEF on the shuttle after it launched Magellan?

-charles

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spl@mcnc.org (Steve Lamont) (05/14/89)

In article <1989May13.202819.23389@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <2020@blake.acs.washington.edu> sealion@blake.acs.washington.edu (sealion) writes:
>>are there plans to recover the Long Duration Exposure Facility?
>
>Yes.  NASA is terrified of the public-relations impact of another Skylab,
                                                 ^^^^^^
Love your choice of words :-).

henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (05/15/89)

In article <20714@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> cdaf@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles Daffinger) writes:
>Just a silly question...  How much different is the orbit of LDEF to that
>which the shuttle took to launch Magellan?  Would it have been possible
>to retrieve LDEF on the shuttle after it launched Magellan?

I doubt it.  Magellan had to go into a very specific orbit; it would be
remarkable luck if it were similar to LDEF's.  Also, I suspect the IUS
cradle needed to carry Magellan up probably obstructs the payload bay
enough to interfere with retrieving LDEF (which fills most of the bay).
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