phil@rice.edu (William LeFebvre) (05/24/89)
[ Excuse the cross-posting, please. ] Here's something I found out yesterday. Currently, the Hubble Space Telescope is being stored in California. Everyone knows that it is going to be launched (some day) on a shuttle from the Cape (Florida east coast). But apparently, the only safe way to transport it is by boat. Which means it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. William LeFebvre Department of Computer Science Rice University <phil@Rice.edu>
jwp@larry.sal.wisc.edu (Jeffrey W Percival) (05/25/89)
In article <3313@kalliope.rice.edu> phil@rice.edu () writes: >Here's something I found out yesterday. Currently, the Hubble Space >Telescope is being stored in California. Everyone knows that it is going >to be launched (some day) on a shuttle from the Cape (Florida east coast). >But apparently, the only safe way to transport it is by boat. Which means >it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's >hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. The boat plan has been changed. It was going to go by the "Greenwave", a Navy ship. Now it's going by air (some reject C5, I hear). -- Jeff Percival (jwp@larry.sal.wisc.edu)
gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) (05/25/89)
In article <3313@kalliope.rice.edu> phil@rice.edu () writes: >[ Excuse the cross-posting, please. ] > >Here's something I found out yesterday. Currently, the Hubble Space >Telescope is being stored in California. Everyone knows that it is going >to be launched (some day) on a shuttle from the Cape (Florida east coast). >But apparently, the only safe way to transport it is by boat. Which means >it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's >hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. > Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the load. The people at STSCI are much happier with it travelling by plane. -Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia USPS Mail: Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA Internet: gsh7w@virginia.edu UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!gsh7w
henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (05/25/89)
In article <3313@kalliope.rice.edu> phil@rice.edu () writes: >it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's >hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. Fortunately, the situation has changed. The USAF has refitted a couple of C-5s to carry large military space payloads, and one of them will be borrowed to take HST to the Cape. The possibility of encountering trouble going via Panama wasn't entirely lost on NASA, although they were thinking of terrorism rather than unstable governments (officially, at least). But until the C-5 refit was well underway, there wasn't an alternative. -- Van Allen, adj: pertaining to | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology deadly hazards to spaceflight. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu
andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) (05/26/89)
From article <1531@hudson.acc.virginia.edu>, by gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy): > Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by > boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the load. ^^^^ Hmm, going back to using animal power are they? I know we're getting more green-conscious, but this is going too far. I've heard about horse-power, but pig-power takes a bit of thinking about. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Sorry folks, I couldn't resist that one! Flames > /dev/null -- Andy Clews, Computing Service, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QN, ENGLAND JANET: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk BITNET: andy%syma.sussex.ac.uk@uk.ac Voice: +44 273 606755 ext.2129
sims@stsci.EDU (Jim Sims) (05/26/89)
In article <3313@kalliope.rice.edu>, phil@rice.edu (William LeFebvre) writes: > [ Excuse the cross-posting, please. ] > > Here's something I found out yesterday. Currently, the Hubble Space > Telescope is being stored in California. Everyone knows that it is going > to be launched (some day) on a shuttle from the Cape (Florida east coast). > But apparently, the only safe way to transport it is by boat. Which means > it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's > hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. > For the (hopefully) last time, guys - HST will arrive in Florida shortly before launch, transport is via modified C-5A, courtesy U.S. Air Force (wonder why they need a C-5A to transport HST sized/shaped cargo ;-) ) yes, HST will occasionally look at the Earth, Moon, Sun (through the "back-door" for UV Flood on the WFPC). No, the sensors won't burn out. No, it won't focus that 'close' either (but the defocus/deblurring algorithms are known :-) ). 'nuff said? -- Jim Sims Space Telescope Science Institute Baltimore, MD UUCP: {arizona,decvax,hao,ihnp4}!noao!stsci!sims ARPA: sims@stsci.edu SPAM: SCIVAX::SIMS
jerry@qvax2.UUCP (Jerry Gardner @ex2561) (05/27/89)
In article <1531@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU.acc.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes: > >Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by >boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the ^^^^ Gee, that must have been one helluva big boar! Jerry Gardner, NJ6A Qantel Business Systems {hplabs,pacbell,ihnp4}!qantel!qvax2!jerry Disclaimer? We don't need no stinking disclaimers!
bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) (05/27/89)
-by gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy): -> Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by -> boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the load. - ^^^^ andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) <1027@syma.sussex.ac.uk> : - -Hmm, going back to using animal power are they? I know we're getting -more green-conscious, but this is going too far. I've heard about -horse-power, but pig-power takes a bit of thinking about. Virginia hams are justly famous. And big, too... If *these* pigs had wings, they'd be C5A's. Or maybe Boaring 747's.
chiaravi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Lucius Chiaraviglio) (05/28/89)
In article <1531@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU.acc.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what a linefull! :-) >[. . .] >Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by >boar, [. . .] ^^^^ Having just a few hours come back from a pig roast, it occurred to me that such methods of transport are rather risky. Someone wanting food for a festival might mistakenly interrupt operations. 8-) | Lucius Chiaraviglio | Internet: chiaravi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu BITNET: chiaravi@IUBACS.BITNET (IUBACS hoses From: fields; INCLUDE RET ADDR) Internet-gatewayed BITNET: chiaravi%IUBACS.BITNET@vm.cc.purdue.edu Alt Internet-gatewayed BITNET: chiaravi%IUBACS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Bob.Meizlik@p4.f528.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Meizlik) (05/30/89)
JS> HST will arrive in Florida shortly before launch, transport is via mo JS> C-5A, courtesy U.S. Air Force (wonder why they need a C-5A to transpor JS> sized/shaped cargo ;-) ) I suspect they're going for the smoothest ride. Airplane takeoff/landing bumpiness is somewhat inversely proportional to mass. Bob Meizlik --- GroupMail 2.1 * Origin: Blue Ribbon BBS - 201-791-7471 (107/528.4) -- Bob Meizlik - via UFgate - FidoNet Node 1:107/528 Internet: Bob.Meizlik@p4.f528.n107.z1.fidonet.org
johnson@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. T. Johnson) (06/01/89)
In article <21276@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) writes:
--by gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy):
--> Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by
--> boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the load.
-- ^^^^
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-andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) <1027@syma.sussex.ac.uk> :
--
--Hmm, going back to using animal power are they? I know we're getting
--more green-conscious, but this is going too far. I've heard about
--horse-power, but pig-power takes a bit of thinking about.
-
-Virginia hams are justly famous. And big, too... If *these* pigs had
-wings, they'd be C5A's. Or maybe Boaring 747's.
Sounds like a bunch of pork barrel politics to me.... :{)>
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berry@stsci.EDU (Jim Berry) (06/02/89)
From article <831.2481FD06@mcastl.fidonet.org>, by Bob.Meizlik@p4.f528.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Meizlik): > Jim Sims writes: > JS> HST will arrive in Florida shortly before launch, transport is via mo > JS> C-5A, courtesy U.S. Air Force (wonder why they need a C-5A to transpor > JS> sized/shaped cargo ;-) ) > I suspect they're going for the smoothest ride. Airplane > takeoff/landing bumpiness is somewhat inversely proportional to mass. > Bob Meizlik I think you missed Jim's point (note the wink). Why would the Air Force just happen to have a C5A on hand that has been modified to transport HST? For the same reason that they just happened to have built a giant new thermal vac chamber at Lockheed (well, maybe they would have done that anyway). The fact that there is a spook satellite that happens to be nearly identical to HST has a lot to do with it (they sort-of use us to test the facilities before they use them for KH-12). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Berry | UUCP:{arizona,decvax,hao}!noao!stsci!berry Space Telescope Science Institute | ARPA: berry@stsci.edu Baltimore, Md. 21218 | SPAM: SCIVAX::BERRY, KEPLER::BERRY
sims@stsci.EDU (Jim Sims) (06/05/89)
And the last unexplained TLA is GSE - Ground Support Equipment (and yes, I promidse to be a good boy and _NOT_ post TLAs without translations from now on) -- Jim Sims Space Telescope Science Institute Baltimore, MD UUCP: {arizona,decvax,hao,ihnp4}!noao!stsci!sims ARPA: sims@stsci.edu SPAM: SCIVAX::SIMS
iiit-sh@cybaswan.UUCP (Steve Hosgood) (06/08/89)
In article <583@stsci.edu> sims@stsci.EDU (Jim Sims) writes: >(and yes, I promise to be a good boy and _NOT_ post TLAs without translations > from now on) > Ok, so - er - what's a TLA please? Steve
berry@stsci.EDU (Jim Berry) (06/14/89)
From article <502@cybaswan.UUCP>, by iiit-sh@cybaswan.UUCP (Steve Hosgood): > In article <583@stsci.edu> sims@stsci.EDU (Jim Sims) writes: >>(and yes, I promise to be a good boy and _NOT_ post TLAs without translations >> from now on) >> > Ok, so - er - what's a TLA please? > Steve Three Letter Acronym. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Berry | UUCP:{arizona,decvax,hao}!noao!stsci!berry Space Telescope Science Institute | ARPA: berry@stsci.edu Baltimore, Md. 21218 | SPAM: SCIVAX::BERRY, KEPLER::BERRY