[sci.space.shuttle] Shuttle communications

sfn20715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (07/20/89)

Would someone please be kind enough to post or repost a list of the frequencies
used by Shuttle/KSC/Remote stations communications during Shuttle flight?
Please mail to sfn20715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu or post in sci.space or
sci.space.shuttle.  Bolshoi spaceba, tovarischi.

qac@occrsh.ATT.COM (Quentin_Conner) (07/25/89)

sfn20715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:


>Would someone please be kind enough to post or repost a list of the frequencies
>used by Shuttle/KSC/Remote stations communications during Shuttle flight?
>Please mail to sfn20715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu or post in sci.space or
>sci.space.shuttle.  Bolshoi spaceba, tovarischi.

Yes, please do.

Quentin Conner
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qac@occrsh.att.com

bobt@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Tidrick) (07/27/89)

This was saved from the net maybee two years ago. I don't know if they are
still current but I can't see why they would not be.

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The shuttle comm frequencies are public information. From my Rockwell
STS-1 press kit, the three UHF AM frequencies are: 296.8 (primary),
259.7 (secondary), and 243.0 Mhz (emergency).

The S-band frequencies are:

2287.5 Mhz (PM downlink - primary)
2217.5 Mhz (PM downlink - secondary)
2250.0 Mhz (FM downlink - primary)
2205.0 Mhz (FM downlink - development flight instrumentation)
2106.4 Mhz (PM uplink - primary)
2041.9 Mhz (PM uplink - secondary)
1831.8 Mhz (PM uplink - DoD primary)
1775.7 Mhz (PM uplink - DoD secondary)

As Ron said earlier, the data stream is multiplexed stuff with digital
voice and telemetry. However, all of the data formats are also public
information. I have a NTIS report on the performance of the
communications system during the STS-2 ascent, and in an appendix are
complete details on everything you need - frame sync vectors, channel
assignments, etc. In addition to the digital data, the PM downlinks
repeat a 1.7 Mhz ranging tone. For the non-DoD uplinks, the carrier
frequency of the downlink transmitter is phase locked to 240/221 times
the uplink frequency, also for tracking.  While certainly challenging, this
is not outside of the capabilities of a dedicated amateur.

The FM downlinks can carry a variety of stuff, e.g., television [probably
analog], 128 kb/s real-time engine data or 192 kb/s playbacks of
recorded data.

Phil
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                                                 From the Files of
                                                 Bob Tidrick
                                                 GPID Engineering
                                                 Tektronix Inc.
                                                 Wilsonville OR. 

smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) (07/27/89)

Of course, this is a classified shuttle flight, so don't expect to
hear anything in cleartext.  They're not even going to tell us
the launch time till T-9:00, though that doesn't make much sense
to me -- I'm sure all the "fishing trawlers" can turn on their
sensors given that much lead time anyway...

phil@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (Bill LeFebvre) (07/27/89)

In article <7651@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> bobt@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Tidrick) writes:
>The S-band frequencies are:
>...
>For the non-DoD uplinks, the carrier
>frequency of the downlink transmitter is phase locked to 240/221 times
>the uplink frequency, also for tracking.  While certainly challenging, this
>is not outside of the capabilities of a dedicated amateur.

As someone has pointed out, the next flight (as well as the one
after it) are DoD:  both uplink and downlink will be encrypted.

Furthermore, they just recently decided to encrypt ALL uplink, even on
the non-DoD.  I don't know when they implemented this decision
(whether it was on or after STS-26), but I know it happened.  It is
now beyond "the capabilities of a dedicated amateur", although
probably not impossible.  I think it was a smart move.

Downlink for non-DoD flights remains unencrypted.

		William LeFebvre
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>

leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (Lee Mellinger) (07/28/89)

In article <957@accuvax.nwu.edu> phil@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (Bill LeFebvre) writes:
:In article <7651@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> bobt@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Tidrick) writes:
:
:As someone has pointed out, the next flight (as well as the one
:after it) are DoD:  both uplink and downlink will be encrypted.
:
:		William LeFebvre

The next flight is indeed a DOD launch, however the one following is
the Galileo launch and definitely not classified.

Lee

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phil@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (Bill LeFebvre) (07/28/89)

In article <5459@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (Lee Mellinger) writes:
>The next flight is indeed a DOD launch, however the one following is
>the Galileo launch and definitely not classified.

Entirely possible.  At one time there were two DoD missions scheduled
for this summer, thus my confusion.  Since my wife isn't working there
any longer, this list is the best source of current information that
I have.

My apologies for any misinformation.




		William LeFebvre
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>

cmaidt@f9.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris Maidt) (07/31/89)

 BT> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 BT> 
 BT> The shuttle comm frequencies are public information. From my Rockwell
 BT> STS-1 press kit, the three UHF AM frequencies are: 296.8 (primary),
 BT> 259.7 (secondary), and 243.0 Mhz (emergency).

These are current:

SHUTTLE MISSION FREQUENCIES

AERONAUTICAL FREQUENCIES  VHF/UHF IN MHz

KSC           PATRICK AFB           EDWARDS AFB
117.8           118.4                  116.4
121.7           121.7                  120.7
126.2           125.1                  121.8
126.3           126.2                  126.1
284.0           128.7                  127.8
138.3                  236.6
138.450                269.9
149.925                290.3
162.6120               318.1
273.5                  390.1
335.8
340.9
348.4
358.3
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KSC GROUND SUPPORT  VHF IN MHz

148.480          163.510          170.350
149.170          163.560          171.150
162.610          165.190          171.260
163.460          170.150          173.560
163.480          170.170          173.680
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S BAND MICROWAVE IN MHz

SHUTTLE TO GROUND        2205.0       2217.5
2250.0       2287.5

GROUND TO SHUTTLE       2041.9        2201.4
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SHORTWAVE FREQUENCIES IN KHz

2622          6693          9042          13277
2678          6708          9132          13600
3850          7461          10780*        14397
3860          7675          11205         14896
5180          7910          11407         20186
5190          8972          12160         20197
5350          8981          12277         20198
5810          7765          13170         20390**

ALL FREQUENCIES ARE IN UPPER SIDEBAND
* PRIMARY FREQUENCY
**  SECONDARY FREQUENCY
THESE FREQUENCIES HAVE NOT BEEN CHECKED BY ME
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karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) (08/09/89)

During powered flight about 6 to 7 minutes after launch, I heard three very
brief air-to-ground transmissions on the standard Shuttle UHF AM
frequencies.  They were clearly the Shuttle, since they began "Houston,
Columbia..." The receiver was an Icom R-7000 fed by a broadband discone
antenna up about 40 feet.

Given that I am near New York, these observations confirm the high
inclination orbit. Anybody have a set of Keplerian elements yet?

Phil

gordon@prls.UUCP (Gordon Vickers) (08/09/89)

In article <17361@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes:
->
->During powered flight about 6 to 7 minutes after launch, I heard three very
->brief air-to-ground transmissions on the standard Shuttle UHF AM

    Geeesh, you forgot to mention the frequancy :-)

->frequencies.  They were clearly the Shuttle, since they began "Houston,
->Columbia..." The receiver was an Icom R-7000 fed by a broadband discone
->antenna up about 40 feet.
->
   {remainder deleted - gpv}
->Phil

tom@dvnspc1.Dev.Unisys.COM (Tom Albrecht) (08/12/89)

In article <17361@bellcore.bellcore.com>, karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes:
> 
> Given that I am near New York, these observations confirm the high
> inclination orbit. Anybody have a set of Keplerian elements yet?
> 
> Phil

I pulled the following off the Celestial RCP/M system.

Sb: ACTUAL STS 28 ELSET  <Satellites>
Fm: TED MOLCZAN
To: ALL
 #: 4952 05:49:42 09-Aug-89
 
The following elset was received from a friend. The origin is
offical. 
 
20164  89061A  89220.55325462  00084253
57.0005  46.3102  0012736  291.1181  241.7481  15.91332191 
 
This was rev 0 by NORAD's count, and rev 1 by NASA's.
 
Orbit is 297 km x 314 km, with 90.49 min period.
 
STS 27 was 57 deg inc, 451 km by 458 km, with 93.53 min period.
Therefore it appears that STS 28 is on a different mission, i.e.
not Lacrosse. KH-11 type payload would be consistent with low
orbit of STS 28.
 
Visibility prospects in N.A. not good. Southern U.S. latitudes
may have low pre-dawn passes on final day or two of mission.
 
BFN
 
Sb: LATEST STS 28 ELSET.  <Satellites>
Fm: TED MOLCZAN
To: ALL
 #: 4953 16:29:14 09-Aug-89
 
Received this morning :
 
89221.10520486 .00078617 00000+00 25599-3 005
56.9981  43.7612  0008896  307.8287  146.2817  15.90071905
 
Above is at start of NORAD's rev 9 and NASA's rev 10.
 
BFN
 
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