[sci.space.shuttle] Shuttle Crew Seats

rb5d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bates) (11/29/89)

From: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) :
>                KSC SHUTTLE STATUS REPORT - TUESDAY, NOV. 21, 1989
>                STS-33 - (OV 103) - PAD 39-B - LAUNCH MINUS ONE DAY
>
>              Today, the orbiter's communications system will be
>         activated, the navigation systems will be tested and the flight
>         crew seats will be installed in the flight and mid decks.

Why do they wait until one day before launch to install seats?  Why aren't
they attached more or less permanently like flight crew seats in aircraft?

--RC Bates
  RB5d@Andrew.CMU.Edu

steve@goofy.nm.paradyne.com (Steve Fowler) (11/29/89)

In article <wZQjNdy00WBKQ0oJB9@andrew.cmu.edu> rb5d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bates) writes:
>From: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) :
>>                KSC SHUTTLE STATUS REPORT - TUESDAY, NOV. 21, 1989
>>                STS-33 - (OV 103) - PAD 39-B - LAUNCH MINUS ONE DAY
>>         crew seats will be installed in the flight and mid decks.
>
>Why do they wait until one day before launch to install seats?  Why aren't
>they attached more or less permanently like flight crew seats in aircraft?
>
>--RC Bates
>  RB5d@Andrew.CMU.Edu

I would suspect that this is done to allow the pad crew easy movement
inside the vehicle.  It is easy to move around while the vehicle is in
orbit, but, while on the ground in a vertical position, it is hard for
the ground crew to move around.  

Ground access is necessary to load experiments, food, equipment, check
out parts, etc.


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phil@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) (11/30/89)

In article <6781@pdn.paradyne.com> steve@goofy.paradyne.com (Steve Fowler) writes:
>In article <wZQjNdy00WBKQ0oJB9@andrew.cmu.edu> rb5d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bates) writes:
>>From: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) :
>>>                KSC SHUTTLE STATUS REPORT - TUESDAY, NOV. 21, 1989
>>>                STS-33 - (OV 103) - PAD 39-B - LAUNCH MINUS ONE DAY
>>>         crew seats will be installed in the flight and mid decks.
>>
>>Why do they wait until one day before launch to install seats?
>
>I would suspect that this is done to allow the pad crew easy movement
>inside the vehicle.  It is easy to move around while the vehicle is in
>orbit, but...

The seats for the commander and pilot are permanently mounted in the
vehicle.  But the mission and payload specialists sit in chairs that
are not permanent (two on the flight deck and three on the middeck).
Once the vehicle is on orbit, the chairs are removed and stowed
Reinstalling the chairs is part of the deorbit preparations.  This
also explains why you only see two chairs in the video that they send
down.  I'm virtually positive that it is these chairs that the press
release is referring to.

		William LeFebvre
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>

mac@idacrd.UUCP (Robert McGwier) (12/01/89)

From article <wZQjNdy00WBKQ0oJB9@andrew.cmu.edu>, by rb5d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bates):
> 
> From: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) :
>>                KSC SHUTTLE STATUS REPORT - TUESDAY, NOV. 21, 1989
>>                STS-33 - (OV 103) - PAD 39-B - LAUNCH MINUS ONE DAY
>>
>>              Today, the orbiter's communications system will be
>>         activated, the navigation systems will be tested and the flight
>>         crew seats will be installed in the flight and mid decks.
> 
> Why do they wait until one day before launch to install seats?  Why aren't
> they attached more or less permanently like flight crew seats in aircraft?
>



One word explains that.  MASS.  They always try to minimize the mass
to orbit.  Calculate how much energy must be expended sending an empty
seat to orbit and you can imagine the anger of (say) some scientist who
has been told his 100 Kg experiment can't be flown because that 500
Kg of empty seats are in the shuttle.

Bob
 
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