[sci.space.shuttle] Shuttle Launch Times

joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) (02/08/90)

There's a shuttle launch scheduled for 2-22.  Can anyone tell me how I
find out what *time* it's scheduled for?  How about other pertinant
data, like where to go to view it, etc.

Drop me a line, if you could. -Joe
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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/09/90)

In article <7226@dayton.UUCP> joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) writes:
>There's a shuttle launch scheduled for 2-22.  Can anyone tell me how I
>find out what *time* it's scheduled for? ...

Basically, you can't, at least not officially.  It's a military mission,
and that information is classified.
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mskucherawy@crocus.waterloo.edu (Murray S. Kucherawy) (02/09/90)

In article <7226@dayton.UUCP> joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) writes:
>
>There's a shuttle launch scheduled for 2-22.  Can anyone tell me how I
>find out what *time* it's scheduled for?  How about other pertinant
>data, like where to go to view it, etc.

It's a military mission, so that information is restricted. The best you
can do is watch Peter Yee's NASA Headline News/Shuttle Status postings
for further information as the 22nd draws nearer.

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smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) (02/09/90)

In article <20693@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, mskucherawy@crocus.waterloo.edu (Murray S. Kucherawy) writes:
} In article <7226@dayton.UUCP> joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) writes:
} >
} >There's a shuttle launch scheduled for 2-22.  Can anyone tell me how I
} >find out what *time* it's scheduled for?  How about other pertinant
} >data, like where to go to view it, etc.
} 
} It's a military mission, so that information is restricted. The best you
} can do is watch Peter Yee's NASA Headline News/Shuttle Status postings
} for further information as the 22nd draws nearer.

In fact, a good newspaper will be better, as they'll publish the
leaked information -- which NASA won't do.

friedl@mtndew.UUCP (Steve Friedl) (02/11/90)

Henry Spencer writes:
> It's a military mission, and that information [launch time] is classified.

I have been wondering about this.  I certainly expect that they won't
tell us what they are launching, but what are the concerns about saying
when the launch will be?  Are there specific security issues here or is
it the general approach of tell 'em nothing even if it buys no additional
security?

     Steve

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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/12/90)

In article <338@mtndew.UUCP> friedl@mtndew.UUCP (Steve Friedl) writes:
>> It's a military mission, and that information [launch time] is classified.
>
>I have been wondering about this.  I certainly expect that they won't
>tell us what they are launching, but what are the concerns about saying
>when the launch will be?  Are there specific security issues here or is
>it the general approach of tell 'em nothing even if it buys no additional
>security?

I think it's a combination of a feebleminded attempt to hide what orbit
the thing will be in, a feebleminded attempt at extra security against
hypothetical sabotage, and the general tell-em-nothing mindset.
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thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) (02/12/90)

> I have been wondering about this.  I certainly expect that they won't
> tell us what they are launching, but what are the concerns about saying
> when the launch will be?  Are there specific security issues here or is
> it the general approach of tell 'em nothing even if it buys no additional
> security?

I was under the impression that the reason the launch time was kept
classified was so that the "enemy" couldn't have all their "fishing"
trawlers in place and ready at launch time.  Launch time, along with
trajectory may also tell where the payload will be placed in orbit.

I think a minor reason for classifying was that "the less you tell 'em
the better".
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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/12/90)

In article <171.UUL1.3#5131@mvac23.UUCP> thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) writes:
>I was under the impression that the reason the launch time was kept
>classified was so that the "enemy" couldn't have all their "fishing"
>trawlers in place and ready at launch time...

Trouble is, they've only got something like a four-hour window to fill,
and it's not hard to have the snoops in place for that long.  Especially
since anyone with binoculars can give you advance warning, because some
of the crucial events are quite noticeable.  (Removal of the "LOX beanie"
on the external tank means "launch imminent", and main-engine ignition
gives you several seconds of warning before the SRBs fire.)
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phil@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) (02/12/90)

In article <1990Feb12.052438.28647@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
>...Especially
>since anyone with binoculars can give you advance warning, because some
>of the crucial events are quite noticeable.  (Removal of the "LOX beanie"
>on the external tank means "launch imminent", and main-engine ignition
>gives you several seconds of warning before the SRBs fire.)

Unnecessary to even watch for that, since the PAO (Public Affairs
Office/r) tells the world when the count comes out of the 5 minute
hold.

		William LeFebvre
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>

harley@gofer.enet.dec.com (John H. Privitera) (02/13/90)

This is probably a Real Dumb Question, but will WA3NAN be rebroadcasting
any shuttle transmissions for this mission?

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