[sci.space.shuttle] Shuttle Tiles...

ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat) (11/09/90)

Here is a question that I have been wondering about for a while.

Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
return or has that problem been solved?

Thanks
SteveO

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eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) (11/09/90)

In article <17415@thorin.cs.unc.edu> ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat) writes:
>Here is a question that I have been wondering about for a while.
>
>Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
>return or has that problem been solved?
>
>Thanks
>SteveO
>

Steve,
  To the best of my knowledge, that problem has been solved.  If my
memory serves me correctly (yeah, right!), the problem was solved soon
after the flight(s?) of the Enterprise.  If that problem was not solved,
the astronauts would have quite a time during reentry.
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v071pzp4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig L Cole) (11/10/90)

In article <1990Nov9.131430.3134@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes...
>In article <17415@thorin.cs.unc.edu> ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat) writes:
>>Here is a question that I have been wondering about for a while.
>>
>>Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
>>return or has that problem been solved?
>>
>>Thanks
>>SteveO
>>
> 
>Steve,
>  To the best of my knowledge, that problem has been solved.  If my
>memory serves me correctly (yeah, right!), the problem was solved soon
[B>after the flight(s?) of the Enterprise.

I'm no expert, but Enterprise never had tiles. It was Columbia that
lost all her tiles after riding the Boeing 905 from California to
Florida. I'm not certain why they all fell off, but the problem
has been pretty well solved.

A lot of the shuttles tiles have been replaced by thermal blankets.
These blankets cover a couple of square feet each and cover the
less heated areas of the shuttle.

BUT -

a bunch of the shuttles tiles usually have to replaced after a flight
anyway, because some of them are damaged launch and/or reentry. The
tiles either are chipped, or sometimes crack.

There was a great article a month or so ago in Discover about the
work that goes into the shuttle between launches, including the
exhausting work checking and replacing the tiles.

Craig Cole
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eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) (11/10/90)

In article <45346@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v071pzp4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>In article <1990Nov9.131430.3134@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes...
>>In article <17415@thorin.cs.unc.edu> ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat) writes:
>>>Here is a question that I have been wondering about for a while.
>>>
>>>Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
>>>return or has that problem been solved?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>SteveO
>>>
>> 
>>Steve,
>>  To the best of my knowledge, that problem has been solved.  If my
>>memory serves me correctly (yeah, right!), the problem was solved soon
>[B>after the flight(s?) of the Enterprise.
>
>I'm no expert, but Enterprise never had tiles. It was Columbia that
>lost all her tiles after riding the Boeing 905 from California to
>Florida. I'm not certain why they all fell off, but the problem
>has been pretty well solved.
>
>Craig Cole
>V071PZP4@UBVMS.BITNET
>V071PZP4@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU

I may be wrong. I always thought it was the Columbia that rode on the
Boeing.
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millard@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Millard Edgerton) (11/10/90)

Tiles are ALL inspected and damaged ones, now 30-50 range, are replaced!

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megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) (11/10/90)

In article <1990Nov9.222508.14408@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes:
>I may be wrong. I always thought it was the Columbia that rode on the
>Boeing.

They all RIDE on the ex-American Airlines 747 but the Enterprise is the
one that was used for the drop testing.

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henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (11/13/90)

In article <17415@thorin.cs.unc.edu> ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat) writes:
>Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
>return or has that problem been solved?

The tiles generally no longer fall off -- just as well! -- but still suffer
minor damage during takeoff and landing.  A few dozen tiles are replaced
after each mission, usually because of surface nicks and dents.

The really labor-intensive part of the tiles -- inspecting, testing the
strength of the bond to the orbiter skin, and measuring edge gaps for
*each and every tile* after each mission -- continues, however.  It has
been reduced a bit by using large one-piece blankets rather than small
tiles in low-temperature areas.
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gandalf@pro-canaveral.cts.com (Ken Hollis) (11/20/90)

Greetings and Salutations:

>From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
>Subject: Re: Shuttle tiles
>In article <17415@thorin.cs.unc.edu> ornat@ornat.cs.unc.edu (Steven Ornat)
write
>s:
>>Does NASA still have to replace tiles on the shuttle after they
>>return or has that problem been solved?
>
>The tiles generally no longer fall off -- just as well! -- but still suffer
>minor damage during takeoff and landing.  A few dozen tiles are replaced

For STS - 41, Flight 11 OV-103 (Ulysses) 11 tiles were replaced because of
damage (one from window #6 R&R last flow).  There were 16 impacts of 1" or
greater, 76 total impacts.

>after each mission, usually because of surface nicks and dents.
>
>The really labor-intensive part of the tiles -- inspecting, testing the
>strength of the bond to the orbiter skin, and measuring edge gaps for
>*each and every tile* after each mission -- continues, however.  It has

The inspection / replacement process consists of the following:

Inspect the tiles on the ship and write a problem report on each that has any
defect.  The disposition falls basically into two categories:

1) Minor repairs : A gray "slurry" is baked onto the surface for those areas
where minor nicks / dings have taken place.

2) Major repairs: A "Splash" mold is made of the removed tile, sent to
Lockheed & the new tile fabricated, sent back and installed.  A pull test is
performed ONLY on those tiles replaced, and the associated gap fillers &
thermal barriers, not on every tile.

All blankets & tiles are waterproofed (used to be ScotchGuard, don't know what
it is now...).  This insures that the face of the tile does not pop off
because of water that has soaked into the tile & blankets that freezes &
breaks the tile on ascent.  

>been reduced a bit by using large one-piece blankets rather than small
>tiles in low-temperature areas.

One-piece blankets are FRSI (Felt Reusable Surface Insulation), FIB (Flexible
Insulation Blankets), & TCS (Thermal Control System) Blankets

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Zoology
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>

Ken Hollis

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