kev@ist.CO.UK (Kevin Holmes) (06/09/89)
Since I'm going to be in Florida (on honeymoon), I'd appreciate a quick breakdown on scheduled events (hopefully launches!) at the Cape during the above period. Also since I've been given permission (!) to spend at least one day there, I'd like some indication on those "mustn't miss" bits of a 'first-time' visit. Cheers, Kev Holmes kev@ist.CO.UK | "Selling software is just like Imperial Software Technology | prostitution; You've got it, You sell it, Reading, Royal Berkshire, UK | You've still got it!" - D. Lambert IST.
fari@athena.mit.edu (Fariborz Shahzamani) (01/09/91)
Hi I have two questions 1) What is the shuttle glide ratio and the approach speed ? 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board? Regards
megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) (01/09/91)
In article <1991Jan8.213612.10219@athena.mit.edu> fari@athena.mit.edu (Fariborz Shahzamani) writes: > 1) What is the shuttle glide ratio and the approach speed ? From The Space Shuttle Operators Manual by Kerry Mark Joels and Gregory P. Kennedy. Ballantine Books, NY 1982 Starting from Maximum heating point. Alt:230,000ft Speed:15,000mph Alt:180,000ft Speed:8,300mph Alt:90,000ft Speed:Mach 3.3 Alt:83,000ft Speed:Mach 2.5 Alt:50,000ft Speed:Mach 1.0 Alt:13,300ft Speed:424mph Glideslope 22 degrees Alt:2,000ft Speed:350mph Glideslope 1.5 degrees Alt:135ft Speed:340mph Flare Alt:90ft Speed:330mph Deploy gear Alt:0ft Speed:215mph Touchdown > 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board I don't think so. Many light aircraft don't. If you don't have one you just have to avoid certain airspaces. ############################################################################### # "Calling Garland operator 7G," EVE Email megazone@wpi.wpi.edu # # MEGAZONE, aka DAYTONA, aka BRIAN BIKOWICZ Bitnet Use a gateway. Sorry. # ###############################################################################
james@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Gillespie) (01/09/91)
megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) writes: >> 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board >I don't think so. Many light aircraft don't. If you don't have one you just >have to avoid certain airspaces. -- James Gillespie, /~~~~~~~~\ "What's that?" Edinurgh University. / @ @ \ "It's a hand grenade" james@uk.ac.ed / < \ -- Death Race 2000 ____________________/ \________/ \__________________________________________
james@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Gillespie) (01/09/91)
>megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23) writes: >>> 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board >>I don't think so. Many light aircraft don't. If you don't have one you just >>have to avoid certain airspaces. Somehow that got mangled. What I said was: are you saying what I think you're saying? That must make the shuttle the biggest light aircraft ever! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) -- James Gillespie, /~~~~~~~~\ "What's that?" Edinurgh University. / @ @ \ "It's a hand grenade" james@uk.ac.ed / < \ -- Death Race 2000 ____________________/ \________/ \__________________________________________
rick@pixar.uucp (Rick Ace) (01/10/91)
> > 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board > > I don't think so. Many light aircraft don't. If you don't have one you just > have to avoid certain airspaces. According to the Federal Aviation Regulations: All aircraft operating above 10,000 feet MSL must be equipped with Mode-C. Also, all aircraft operating within the Positive Control Area (I believe it's 18,000 feet to 60,000 feet) must be on an IFR flight plan. Not sure if these rules apply to military or other U.S. Government flights, though... Rick Ace
petej@phred.UUCP (Pete Jarvis) (01/10/91)
In article <1991Jan8.213612.10219@athena.mit.edu> fari@athena.mit.edu (Fariborz Shahzamani) writes: > 1) What is the shuttle glide ratio and the approach speed ? > 2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board? I don't remember the numbers, but the Shuttle glide ratio isn't high. It's the equivalent of putting wings on a rock. :-) As for mode C, it has its own equivalent of that plus plus alot of other telemetry on board to let the tracking people know exactly where it is. I don't know exactly what the FAA requires of NASA of the Shuttle, but ATC probably advises other aircraft to stay clear of certain areas during the Shuttle approach and landing phase. Peter Jarvis...........
barrey@frodo.Novell.com (Barrey Jewall) (01/14/91)
In article <1991Jan9.224445.13813@pixar.uucp> rick@pixar.uucp (Rick Ace) writes: >According to the Federal Aviation Regulations: >All aircraft operating above 10,000 feet MSL must be equipped with Mode-C. >Also, all aircraft operating within the Positive Control Area >(I believe it's 18,000 feet to 60,000 feet) must be on an IFR >flight plan. >Not sure if these rules apply to military or other U.S. Government >flights, though... They don't. Barrey >Rick Ace -- + Barrey Jewall - Network Admin.++ "My opinions are my opinions" + + barrey@novell.com ++ (rather self-evident, eh?) + + Novell, Inc.- San Jose, Calif. ++ +
shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) (01/16/91)
Somebody writes:
2) Does FAA requires Shuttle to have mode C transponder on board
They can't. NASA is a federal agency and isn't subject to FAA
requirements. FAA only governs private aviation, not public. Of
course, we go along with a lot of it, including sticking N numbers
on our fighters, but that's because we have to interact with them.
--
Mary Shafer shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov ames!skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer
NASA Ames Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
Of course I don't speak for NASA
"A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all"--Unknown US fighter pilotandrew@postmod.UUCP (Andrew J Richardson) (01/17/91)
In article <SHAFER.91Jan15190145@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov>, Mary Shafer writes:
-> They can't. NASA is a federal agency and isn't subject to FAA
-> requirements. FAA only governs private aviation, not public. Of
-> course, we go along with a lot of it, including sticking N numbers
-> on our fighters, but that's because we have to interact with them.
N numbers on fighters? whenever we deal with any military aircraft (every
day), they either use a mission callsign (i.e. HOUND12, SPRIT55) or the
unit designator plus a/c number (i.e. HT343, DI274). of course there are
the flights which use the branch name and 5 digits, M12345 or A1.
not that N numbers don't exist for fighters, but in the enroute center i work
at, we run a fair volume of military traffic and i've never run across N
numbers.
---andrew
andrew@postmod.uucp
uunet!postmod!andrewhenry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (01/17/91)
In article <1887fbd1.ARN0812@postmod.UUCP> andrew@postmod.UUCP writes: >-> ... we go along with a lot of it, including sticking N numbers >-> on our fighters, but that's because we have to interact with them. > >N numbers on fighters? whenever we deal with any military aircraft ... N numbers on fighters *flown by NASA*. NASA is not military. -- If the Space Shuttle was the answer, | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology what was the question? | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry