larry@tapa.UUCP (Larry Pajakowski) (11/13/87)
We are trying to select a database/windows environment to replace an ISAM based application. Under consideration are the likes of dbVista, Informix ESQL, RDM (more popular in the DEC world) Progress and some others. They all must run under both DOS and Unix/Xenix. How would you compare something as diverse as dbVista and Informix which interface with C with Progress (a 4GL) and RDM (an applications generator). Schedules are critical and I can't get a feel for which take more time. For example Progress would take an estimated 12,000 lines of 4GL while RDM has no procedureal code but might take an estimated 15,000 lines of supporting Pascal. Real world experiences would be most enlightening. Many Thanks Larry Pajakowski ihnp4!tapa!larry
ustel@well.UUCP (Mark Hargrove) (11/18/87)
> > We are trying to select a database/windows environment to replace an ISAM > based application. Under consideration are the likes of dbVista, Informix > ESQL, RDM (more popular in the DEC world) Progress and some others. They > all must run under both DOS and Unix/Xenix. > > How would you compare something as diverse as dbVista and Informix which > interface with C with Progress (a 4GL) and RDM (an applications > generator). Schedules are critical and I can't get a feel for which take > more time. For example Progress would take an estimated 12,000 lines of 4GL > while RDM has no procedureal code but might take an estimated 15,000 lines > of supporting Pascal. > > Real world experiences would be most enlightening. > > Many Thanks > Larry Pajakowski > ihnp4!tapa!larry We looked at all of the above (except dbVista) as well as Oracle...and we ended up choosing Unify RDBMS and ACCELL 4GL. If you haven't looked at Accell, and you have a critical schedule, you're doing yourself and your company a disservice. The bottom line was this: Unify blows the doors off ALL the competition that I've seen in any kind of apples-to-apples benchmark. Accell is a good, solid 4GL environment that let's you produce extremely high quality applications in a *very* short time. We have used Unify/Accell at my current job to produce 2 MAJOR applications, running now at several of our locations -- and it only took 9 weeks to produce, test, and document both. As for 12,000 lines of 4GL code --- At my last job I produced a system that included order processing, inventory, purchasing, and a near real-time, bar coded, WIP tracking system. The whole thing took about 4000 lines of Accell and maybe 1200 lines of C code. The ENTIRE PROJECT took me 4 months, from initial concepts to production code. During that time I was also acting as site administrator AND the de facto production control manager. You can do a LOT with Unify and Accell. Unify and Accell are ported to over 100 machines, including to the DOS environment. If you're anywhere near Silicon Valley, you're welcome to come and see what we're doing with it now. Mark Hargrove Director of MIS U.S. TeleCenters, Santa Clara Voice: 408-496-1800 Email: {backbones}!hplabs!well!ustel